Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, metal's my religion, and yeah, it's my dope. Standing in the thunder on stage in the pouring metal rain. What a feeling, baby, the lights are exploding.

Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast.

My name is George. This is Bug. This is Jay. And we are back once again with episode 29. And today in the studio with us, you may recall him from our year-end episode, we have Will. How you doing? And also with us, his friend John. Our friend, John. Hi, I'm John. Hello, John. Fucking Will is back. That was probably our favorite episode so far.

brought a shit ton of beer. It's a metric ass ton. Yeah. So I think I have a prediction. John, you're going to be a star. Anybody who starts like this. Hi, I'm John. Yeah, you're in, man. This is going to be awesome. I got that from Joe Satriana on a live album. He announces his band. He says, hi, I'm Joe. As if nobody knows. Cool. I'm glad I hit you then because we got the reference. Nice. Let's say this first, George, about, you know, Will. We, you know,

Those of you who haven't heard, we had Will on for our end of year discussion last year after months of talking to him. We did a marathon episode then. We had a blast. When we started doing our mid-year talk, we thought, hey, who better to come on and join us than Will again? We did a great list then. Why not get him on and have something mid-year and then again get him back on at the end of

So here he is now

And I remember on the end of the year podcast

I said I need to get my friend John in here

Because we're going to do

Two drinking games today

You guys don't know this yet

Yes!

Every time you guys say Opeth

We're going to drink

Every time you say Vinyl

We're going to drink

Oh shit

You just said it there

Damn it

I want to say too

We have been looking for an excuse

For me to come out there

And so I think what I'll do is I'll come for the year-end show. And then also, I am more excited to hear what these two guys have to say about their list than you two bozos, because I know what you listen to. And I was saying it when George picked me up today. After seeing Will's list last year, I should be doing a pod with him, because him and I agree. Earlier this week, George told me that he goes, I just had a... An epiphany. Epiphany, yes.

He goes, I'm a black metal guy and you're a death metal guy. Our love can never happen. Yeah. There's a couple times when, you know, we come together. You can have interracial metal sex. It's okay. But Jay-Z, sorry, but Will's list last year was strong death metal on it. Well, yeah. I mean, that's... The death metal is strong with this one. And you explained that's you. Yeah, yeah. So I think you'll see it again. Yeah. Unfortunately, there's no candle. But also part of it is, and I see this,

happening with this podcast, because both John and I are avid listeners, you guys are on the podcast together, and this goes with you too, Jay, and you're also friends. So not only are you talking on the podcast about a lot of the same bands, then you're texting each other, calling each other, meeting with each other, and seeing the same band. I text you too, you never get back to me. Yeah, that's because I'm in Anacostia all the time. Glory holes. Where's the Steel Panther when you need it?

So what's going to happen is it seems like you're going to start doing this mind meld, this Vulcan mind meld, where you're going to start liking a lot of the same music or introducing each other to the same music. And I noticed this, that my year-end list, I almost started including a whole bunch of stuff you guys have been talking about in the last couple podcasts. And some of it's on there because you guys, the three of you, Buke, George, and Jay, are introducing me to other music I never would have even heard of or known to look at.

And then when I find them, I'm like, holy crap, this is really good. And next thing you know, it's on my year end. And what's going to start happening, and this is what I think what's happening with you guys, is that you're doing the Vulcan mind meld. Incestuous metal. Right. Exactly. That is a new metal genre, incestuous metal. But the thing is, though, be honest, your list has only evolved that way because there's no Cannibal Corpse this year. Not yet. Exactly. So there's a slot already gone.

So guys tell me a little bit about your guys history with how you guys became friends you know metal brothers well get ready to drink I showed up at I used to go to Port City it's in the very beginning okay which is where I used to brew yeah where he brews now I just want to interject here he's no longer with Port City is now with Fair Winds brewer and we are drinking our Howling Gale IPA cheers everyone get the audio on there these glasses clink and clank today these giant German half of ice

We got.

For those here in the area, it's in Lorton. Lorton, Virginia, just south of Washington, D.C., just off the south of the Beltway, off 95. In traffic, it takes just 17 hours to get there. Traffic is horrible to get there. Anyway. For those of us who live there, too. Yeah, exactly. John, go. Sorry to interrupt. Sitting at the bar, I don't know, some weekend crowded, and have an op-ed t-shirt on. Oh, drink! Yes! Yes! And he says, dude, you like metal? Yeah.

And it just literally from there. He's like, "Oh, fuck. We're gonna have this metal night. You gotta come by." You could have been a dickhead there being like, "Don't you see the fucking shirt?" You know? That may have been a response. I don't remember. I don't need to portray something that I'm not. Exactly. Okay. He's the nicest dude ever. Exactly. Okay. But yeah, we just... And then at the first metal night, we hung out a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Just you and I think when your friends were there. I can't remember. I had like a hundred friends there.

But the first one was not as many people showed up. Thanks for calling him out. Remember the first one, the failure? No, the first one I think was the Thursday night or something, wasn't it? Yeah. It wasn't until you got to the weekend where a lot of people started showing up, which was the second one. Well, yeah, there was one that was a legendary Saturday night. It was just completely out of control. Yeah. And then there wasn't one for a long time after that. Oh, really? And then we hooked up with the Brutal Truth quest. Yes. Yes.

The Brutal Truth Guide to Extremes, which I brought with us. Guys, if you're on Untapped, if you're on Twitter, don't follow these guys. Because it's like that fucking mythical being in the distance you'll never catch. I got guys at work who I follow on Untapped. They're like, oh, you see my check-in? Oh, I'm up to 500. Please, whatever. Yeah, after Death Fest, you and Corey talking about that, I was like, yep, not even going to bother anymore.

I only check them in if they're new. I got like 50 to your 400. That's what I do now. I have over a thousand unique check-ins, so I stop checking in. If I've had it before, I usually don't check it in again unless it's a really good one. Anyway, Untappd is an app where you can track the beers that you drink. It's like Facebook for beer nerds. So you guys will start hooking up and having the middle legs. We're not hooking up. There's anything wrong with that. Metal on metal.

Yes. No, actually, we got hooked up on the book. I think we both posted a beer from the book and said we were drinking from the book. Yes. Oh, cool. So it just sort of organically started happening that John and I decided we're going to take on this quest to drink all the beers in the Real Truth Guide to Extreme Beers together. And we got all of them except for four. And the four that are left are pretty much impossible to get, except for one. There's one up in Canada that we could possibly get. Maybe. So it's like Indiana Jones moment, like the beers on the pedestal.

You put your bag of hops on it and quickly grab it and run away from a border. That was the Hunapaw that night. For anybody listening who may have it, what are those for? Ride the Tiger by Surly. Ride the Tiger by Three Floyds. It is Sun of the Morning by Driftwood up in Vancouver or British Columbia somewhere.

Not. So that was their 666 batch of beer. These guys know their shit. It was only four. And now I can't remember the fourth one. I don't think I updated my PDF on my phone. Yeah. There's this one more. Are these beers still even being made? No. So that's the thing. So the Sunday morning is still being made. But it's in Canada. They don't export it. So we would have to rely on. Ride the Tigers when they feel like doing it. I'm going to Vancouver in August. Okay. Well, you have a mission. There it is.

You got a half pack cigarettes. Yep. And a wide asshole to fucking sneak some bottles in. Ooh. You got it. It's dark wearing sunglasses. Hit it. See, Jay, on the West Coast, I see people on Untapped all the time posting that Pliny the Elder. Oh. Jay's like in heaven out there for beer, man. People talk about it against the second coming of beer. What is so special about it? Actually, Pliny the Younger would be the second coming. Yeah, Pliny the Younger. Maybe I'll draw Pliny the Younger first coming.

The Elder's still. Awesome. It is. So I am a beer connoisseur. I also make it for my profession. But I will say that so Pliny the Elder, so it's an IPA made by Russian River, which is in... Santa Rosa? Yes. And I've been there. It was one like the first phenomenal double IPAs, West Coast style IPAs. So West Coast style means it's just like full of ridiculous hops.

It's got great hop flavor and aroma and everything. It is a phenomenal beer and it is held up as the commercial calibration for what a West Coast IPA should taste like. And it is good. It is really, really fucking good. It's Coors Light, the fucking Jay, because he sees it every day. Jay, remember you were telling me something? It's hard if you walk into the store and you have to get there certain times or something to get it?

Yeah, it comes out on Wednesdays and it comes in on Wednesday morning and you got to buy it by 5, 6 o'clock and they only let you buy one bottle too. You can't. That's cool though because everyone can get it then if they make the effort. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and then you probably know that, and I'm going to send two bottles to these boys, but I know that. Send four. I'll pay shipping. And then the younger, you know, is only served, you know. At the tap room, right? No, no, there's a few.

a few other places around the Bay Area that have it. But it's just like a mob scene, you know, when it comes out. Because it only comes out once a year. I've never had that one. And they don't necessarily broadcast it either, right, when they release that? Is it kind of, it gets limited attention? It's consistently at the same. Well, people who know, know. And it's always at the same places. Right. Yeah. And people usually know when it's going to come out. But yeah, man. And I do like,

The Elder never had the younger.

You guys now, aside from sharing the common love of beer, obviously you guys like metal. Did you guys start going to metal shows together?

I think I saw you at Gojira.

Yeah, you were standing way in the back.

Well, behind the board. I'm old. My knees fucking hurt. My back hurts.

I need to go to shows with you because we will be...

We would fit in perfect.

They'd be like, "Look at that asshole just bumped into me."

Like, my legs hurt, my feet hurt, my back hurts, this fucking sucks! Why did I even come? And I'll say, George, do you need a beer? We're all good, man. Yeah, well, if I have enough beer, it sort of anesthetizes all that. I said anesthetize, I haven't had enough to drink yet. I can still say it. That's a great spot, though, at Ram's Head, right behind the board, though, in terms of viewing. Because it's a little elevated, and you can see what happens. So, yeah, so John and I, we've gone to a couple shows, either because of coincidence,

or on purpose. But now that they closed Empire slash Jax, there's just... Everything's a Baltimore. Did you ever have a good experience there? Yes. When? Every time. The sound sucked. The sound was fucking horrible. But when can you walk up literally like we are right now? I'll give it that. Paradise Lost, I saw them there literally to Nick Holmes. It's insane. And I asked Buke this. I was like, when have we been to a show and said, the sound was really great!

I almost never say that it's it's the experience is it do they perform well you know but my my journey meeting opeth it started at jacks in like three degrees of weather you know and was that did you see them on the nevermore tour when they first came to the states no I missed that one I was I was literally about to say is there a tour you haven't seen them on I've seen them 14 times seen who opeth you know

Fuck you, George. George's trying to get his drunk. I've never told you, Buke, that I wrote to Michael Ockerfeldt one time. This was before they were big. What band is he in? Don't say it. Storm Corrosion. Bloodbath. Yeah. And he wrote you back. He wrote you back? He used to be Michael at Opeth.com.

I wrote them and I told them.

I liked it.

Yeah, it was cool, man.

And then it was not long after that that Blackwater Park came up and those emails stopped coming by.

Do you still have the emails?

I think you had a lot of fans.

I might have some, yeah, I'll take her on.

But to answer your question, well that's the only tour I missed.

Nevermore.

Wow.

Wow.

I don't even know what that is.

That's impressive.

Yeah, but that was the Blackwater Park tour too, man.

Yeah, because the only-

That would have been awesome.

Yeah, exactly.

The only time I think they played before that was Milwaukee Metal Fest for Still Life. Oh, they did? I didn't know that. Yeah, which I'm still pissed at. They still don't play enough off that fucking album. The conversation's been brought up about why they haven't played the whole album yet. Really? Yeah. Reasons? They've played everything off it, just not like they're dealing with Ghost Reveries or Blackwater Park. Any reason why, you think? It just hasn't happened. Yeah.

All this? Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

So,

it just doesn't happen.

So,

you guys hooked up at the...

We're not hooking up.

Okay?

Okay.

Stop using that term.

You guys...

Don't ask.

Don't ask.

You guys...

Yeah.

You guys bonded.

Yes.

Over some metal nights.

You guys have seen each other at shows and stuff like that.

You know,

you guys...

And occasionally,

like I'll go to John's house,

I'll go to my house,

We'll dress up beers, hang out, talk beer, talk metal. Yeah, it's beer and metal. Other than that, we'd hate each other. You guys are like another George and Puke. Yes. It's Wayne and Garth, Kevin and Smith, and Jay, you know. Kevin and Smith? Dude, you've only had a beer and a half. I had two beers before you got here. Oh, okay. By the way, I have a low beer warning light.

We will.

I'll stop saying that.

Okay.

I'm going to stop.

Okay.

Let's take a quick break.

Hold on.

Do you want to take a break?

Keep going.

Keep going.

Just don't say the third word.

We won't.

We won't.

But I want to know what the second bullet on our script is.

We will.

What is that?

Earlier this week, we got a text message from Jay.

Because we have a continuous three-way conversation going on.

Three-way.

Yeah.

We've got a never-ending fucking three-way. It's fucking sucking tug all day long. It's hot. You guys are happy. This is the most homo-rock podcast ever. It's only been offered. Jay sent me this message. He goes, you know, something along the lines like, this guy hated us or something like that. So I pull up this review and I'll let Jay speak on it more. But the first thing that hits me is you know how people sum up a review, one out of ten, two out of ten, whatever. He quotes it, I think, three out

10? No, he gave it a one star. Yeah, a one star, and he uses the word hopeless. To describe what? The podcast? Catatonic Society! What? Jay, go ahead. All right, Jay, go. Well, that's actually their ongoing scale, so you can be hopeless up to, I think, perfect. Okay. Well... And the only thing... I gotta... Go ahead. Go ahead, George. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So I'll let you finish, and then I'll go into my rant. Wait, wait, wait, wait. We need to back up, because this happens.

We are reading the script and we know what we're talking about, but the audience does not.

Yes.

So this is... Go ahead, Jay.

Well, Metal Temple, a website, reviewed my band's album, Catatonic Society, Baptiste Dina,

album we're very proud of, and just eviscerated it.

And to sort of set it up, I sent it to them twice, and both times they said, "We got it."

And literally I'd get these one-line emails that would say, "We got it. We're going to review it. Thanks."

I was like screw it I'll send it again we got it we'll review it thanks and then about two months later up goes this review and they put it on Twitter they sort of tagged us in it I was like I mean so first of all they wanted us to read it so I go read it and the best thing I can say about it from this point is that to me the review is as if you gave your grandmother a metal album and said Emma what do you think about it and it was just sort of like ah you know and then it sort of ends with like they're not terrible I just don't I don't know I don't even know what to say about it George I wanted to hear your take on it they

I hated it. Yeah, I want to preface everything I'm about to say with the fact that none of this was requested or in any way condoned by Jay. Anything I'm about to say about Metal Temple is based purely on my reaction to reading their fucking horrible, busted-ass English, don't-know-fucking-metal-from-their-ass review. Is it not an American or British or Australian?

It is a Greek metal site called Metal Temple. Okay. Okay. I hesitated a little at that because I have a lot of respect for the Greek metal scene. But that said, if you can't fucking speak the language, and I'm not one of those like, you're a real American. Speaking as a dog! I'm not one of those types. But if you're going to fucking review something in a language, fucking learn it, first of all. Because your fucking review is a pain in the ass to read because it doesn't make any fuck.

Okay, you know, like I said, this is not, Jay did not ask me to do this, but I feel compelled to defend my friend and his band here because this review, and as a reviewer, I don't tend to lash out at other reviewers or anything like that, you know, like professional courtesy, but this review was so fucking bad that I don't have any compulsion about saying, look, your busted ass English doesn't work for me. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Did Buke write this? Frankly, Buke could write better than this. Whoa, is that bad, huh? It's that bad. And second of all, have you ever even listened to Heavy Metal? Because most of what you're saying about the album doesn't make sense. He's like, they don't even sound like they know what style they're playing. I'm like, okay, you've obviously never heard of Mastodon or High on Fire because it's in that same genre. And if you say they don't know what they sound like, then you obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

I don't understand because I don't sound like Justin Bieber. So, you know, before you go and like trash somebody's album, and I hate people that trash albums online. Well, yeah, because if you review, you only review if you like it. Yes, I do not trash albums online because I think it's good. Why fucking waste your time talking shit about something when there's so much good metal out there? Well, which catatonic society is one of those? Let me step in real quick and just say,

You have George a handjob for me. Thank you. Thank you. It's the rules of the pod. I was going to say, don't you guys think negative review is not necessarily a horrible thing if it's done professionally. Right. There's no such thing as bad press. Or putting in an effort to at least say, I didn't like it because of this. And back it up. The shit all over something, you're wasting everyone's time. Yes. And if you come across as somebody that sounds like you know what you're talking about, but the stuff that he said, it's like he probably only listens to like,

One Thing. He's like, I only listen to power metal, or I only listen to death metal. Something, because he obviously does not listen to a wide range of music and understand all the different styles, and therefore you're not qualified to judge something. No matter what, it's every review, whether it's movie review, music review, whatever, it's all subjective, and none of it is objective. You should actually go read this, though, Will, because it's almost not even subjective. It's rather random. It's what it is.

Just to be fair about it. But I also want to point out that we posted it on our Facebook page. We put all our reviews up. No press is bad. I have to give you credit, Jay. You could, because none of us here and anybody who likes you on Facebook probably would have found this on their own. You could have buried this and made sure nobody found it. But you took the step to say, just like you've always said,

Any review, good or bad, you're going to share. It is what it is. Yeah, it's not like Jay's all butthurt. I'm the one that's butthurt here. I'm offended by how badly this person writes and how it's just bad. But it does say a lot that you did take the step to share it and put it out there. You're not running away from it. Yeah, yeah. Well, the one positive is someone's listening to it. I also think that when most people read it, and I am trying to kind of stay a little bit neutral here, that when most people read it, they'll react more or less the way that George did.

It's pretty badly written. I mean, it just sort of seems like they've never... Actually, I'll be honest with you. Our bass player went and looked this person up. Is he 12? Yeah. Did he put a contract on his head or something? Does he want to pull them away for the European Union and destabilize the Greek drachma? Yeah, right, yeah. They're doing a pretty good job of that. He's like Lady Gaga and stuff where all of his likes on Facebook. So I really don't think he was a metal fan. Oh, wait, wait. Say that again? Holy shit, what? Say that again? The music he likes on Facebook,

Facebook was like Lady Gaga. I mean, there was some metal. It was like Sonata Arctic or whatever that is. Yeah, see, power metal. Yeah. Yeah, power metal. That's fine. You can still like it and not be a douche. Well, I will say this. And it also said, and the singer being me, just screams. And I thought, that was the point where I really thought, have you never heard a metal record before? Like, yeah, I do kind of scream. I mean, that's what... But not the whole time. Yeah, and like nobody's ever screamed before in metal. But I'm doing it, man. You know, it was funny. It was weird. Slayers made a whole thing.

I just want to point out that on the podcast script for today, the bullets reads, Metal Temple sucks a big fat dick. Yes. I wrote that while I was angry. We should punish them and send them a year's supply of Coors Light. But it's American. They'd love it. In an address to Anacostia. Have you had Greek beer? It's not that good. I can imagine. Hey, let me thank you.

You will for giving us a couple of shout outs you've given us on your Twitter and stuff. Thank you for that. We yeah, dude. I love by the way, unlike metal temple who sucks a big fat dick. I actually love the new album and I've played it at the brewery and we brewed. In fact, the beer that we're drinking right now, Holland Gale IPA was brewed while listening to Canon Tonk Society. Hell yeah. Rock on man. I knew it tasted like shit.

Tastes like water. Oh boy. So everybody listening out there, run out right now and get your Catatonic Society. And we're going to run out right now and get a quick refill of beer. George is fucking... Finish your lunch, Jay. This is fascinating because Jay is not in the studio with us and he's out in California on Skype.

20 minutes he's been stuffing his face and eating and talking and it's fascinating to like I'm so sorry I didn't want this my wife just came back and she brought me burrito I know I was about to eat my last chip but you guys go get your beer yeah I tell you what I'll use the john from a trash away we'll be back after this station identification so we're back and well

What are we drinking now? Right now we are drinking Hell's Navigator, which we brew here at my brewery, Fairwinds Brewing Company. This is a Maybach, which is a German-style lager that is usually made in May. Therefore, the German word for May is May, and Bach means pretty much goat. And every Bach beer is supposed to end in Eder for some reason, some weird tradition that they started.

to be Ghost of the Navigator. Nice! After the Iron Maiden song off Brave New World. And then the owner decided to change it to Hell's Navigator, which we were all very, very cool with as well. So Casey decided he wanted to call it Hell's Navigator. And we're like, you know what? That's a badass name too. So we are happy with it. So Hell's Navigator, my buck. And this is not my recipe. This is a Charlie, the head brewer's recipe. And I love this beer.

It's been a big hit. It is quite tasty. Thank you. It is super delicious. I think we need to do another cheers. Cheers. Make it audible. Cheers. Don't spill it on the laptop. Jay is smashing his burrito against the fucking microphone. And burrito. Burrito, he means cock. Yeah. That's everything, basically. If it's a burrito, I'd show up, too. Just that when Buk got up to take the photo, you guys did the devil horns without even stopping talking. That was like pro. You were both like, oh,

So, another thing that's going to be seamless here is this past week, I finally joined the world of high-end headphones, George. I've been telling Buke, well, did you listen to it on headphones? Because I'll go, you've got to listen to something. And he'll be like, meh. And I'll be like, did you listen to it on headphones? If you listen to it in your car or on your computer. Because I have a Prius. Yeah. And my fucking sound in my, I drive 60 miles a fucking day, you two. Don't look at me like this.

Sometimes when you listen to something, you gotta put the nice headphones on to truly experience all the nuances of a song. And so I've always been going, did you listen to it with headphones? And he's like, mmm. Yeah, because my home setup, I have Martin Logan electrostatic speakers in my house. My home setup is fucking amazing. Well, having a 12-month-old, apparently you can't play the volume loud. Yeah, yeah, she's gonna have a very scary problem. Because your wife gets mad and she says you hurt her ears. Well, yeah. I get it.

Common Sense Rears Its Ugly Head. I guess. Wives. Yeah. Jeez. Come on. Child Protective Services. Voice of Reasons. Whatever. Yeah. So apparently they threatened to take my kid away if I kept playing the music loud. So I went out and I got Grado headphones. Grado, Grado, whatever you say them. Greedo. Greedo, whatever. He shot first. He shot first. Yeah, exactly. So I got these nice headphones. They're

My first introduction into the world and pretty much

everything George has said has been true.

Yes!

It's like putting my

$5,000 worth of home

stereo equipment on my ears.

And it sounds amazing.

And you also got an amp.

I got a portable power amp that kind of adds

a little more kick to it.

So they sound amazing.

George was right.

Imagine that!

You know, it's nice now to be able to come home

late from work, you know, late at night.

If I don't want to put on the big speakers

in the house, I can just throw on my headphones

and stuff now.

Yeah.

I've since I got my amp which I got it a like a month or two ago and but I've only been listening with it like for the last week or two when I've been putting together the list for today and I've been going to sleep every night with these headphones on and the amp playing the music from my phone playing flack lossless art watch this audio how do you like the hell's navigator it's pretty good

every day is with the is it a happy ending unfortunately not hey yeah I gotta I gotta ask you a question quick did you get that new open that fucker jerk I love you in fact Jay you know me well that was actually what I first listened to on my headphones I put on pale communion on headphones I gotta tell you I tried that and it sounded

I like shit. I like it. Well, actually, I was comparing it to something which cannot be named yet. You know what I'm talking about. It can't be named because it's not out until next month, and because it is so fantabulously awesome, it can't be included on this top ten list we're doing today, so it shall not be named until next month. There it is. Well, there you go. Hey, Will and John, you guys got lists, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, man. We have fucking lists. Again, this is our

I'm only invited on when I have a list. Okay, all right, cool. I think like Schindler's list. You know, I only have... Forget the beer, bring a list. Yeah, I know. I've got lists on the brain. Guys, is it just me, you know, a little quickly before we get into the news here? Were you guys the past week or so leading up to this? How many times has your guys' lists changed? It changes every day for a whole year. And if I start listening to you guys give your list, I may change mine on the fly.

You fucked mine up with Temple. I was like, oh man. Damn it. Then I'm like, these guys are cool. A couple times I'm like, do I want that? And then George was like, go check this out. Or Jay, check this out. I did some drastic revisioning. I thought my list was set a week ago. And then, no. George's traveling over here. George said a band that was in what, your top five? My number two completely dropped off two days ago. Is that because the new Muffin and Sons came out? Yes.

Dude, you just gave away my whole list. Mumford & Sons 1, Mumford & Sons 2. Okay. So right now you're going to hear an interview we just did with Temple. Yeah, the band Temple. They're an instrumental band. They're two guys, a drummer and everything else. According to Jay, it's Rich and Rich. I mean, Rich and Ryan. Rich and Ryan, but Ryan and Ryan. Wait, literally, it's two dudes and that's it? That's it? Yeah.

The guy who does the guitars and everything else. That's it. They both do the vocals, which are, of course, none at all. Yeah. It's just two of them. My mind is more officially blown right now. Because you've listened to it and you're like, wow, that's two guys. I was listening to it before I picked up John. And then I've been listening to it a lot. I downloaded it. And I love it. May hear about it later. But no, no.

Yeah, hell's a navigator. Yeah, hell's a navigator. But Jay made a great point. Jay, what was the point again you said before going into this interview that really struck you that these guys don't care about anything? They just, I almost said it in the interview. When you hear the interview, you're going to laugh because we'll ask him questions and sort of be like, you know, it sort of comes out that he's really kind of a movie buff. He's not really like, ah, you know, this is something I do. I don't practice. Yeah, basically, the thing I was going to say in the interview and I didn't say,

was that it goes to show that it's more about the music than fame or money. Not that those things exist for metal anymore, but the fact that they will make this music on their own terms and they don't do the things that are expected of you, like touring or having a singer, it shows that it's about the music, which in general, that's metal.

Yeah.

Totally about the music.

And also, we all agreed, a nice up of guys you could ever talk to. He was super cool, dude. Yeah. And I just want to preface the interview by saying, unfortunately, the internet connection here is sucking balls. Fuck you, Comcast. So the first half of the interview is a little sketchy in terms of the connection that drops out a lot. And in fact, you're probably going to hear that with Jay throughout this podcast as well. But the second half of the interview sounds a lot better.

So just sit tight and it will get better. Maybe the burritos are having interference with the internet connection. I'm gone now, man. So here we go. Here's our interview with Rich of Temple. Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast. My name is George. This is Buke. This is Jack. We are here with Rich from the band Temple. How are you doing today, Rich? Doing pretty good. How's the weather out there? Are you in Arizona? Yeah, it's about 1.15 today.

Jesus Christ. Hey, Rich, first off, thanks for joining us early in the morning, your time. The guys here and I, we do a weekly metal podcast on why we wanted to get you on. Last week, we did our top three instrumental songs in metal. And being a fan of you guys from your first album, I know you have a second album coming out, The Moon Lit Our Path. And we wanted to get you on and talk to you about that.

because it just happened to coincide with the talk from last week.

All right, cool. Actually, you know what? It's not early for me because I work overnight,

and I'm already done with work and everything. So I basically came home, and first thing I'm doing.

Right on. Perfect. Well, thank you for spending the morning with us after work.

Rich, we first have to ask, in a world of metal dominated by full bands, full-piece singers, four- or five-piece bands,

How did you guys set your own path going to be an instrumental metal band in this world? Well, in high school, we were a full band, kind of a normal garage band kind of thing. And it was hard, everybody motivated, and members were, and eventually it just got done right. And he was in recording school at the time, so it was, it just made sense to say, let's just, you know, do it by ourselves and make it a studio project and not have to worry about the other members so much.

And so it's it. From that point on, it was just really easy. You guys have seen, I don't know how much you read online, but the fans seem to just eat your guys' stuff up. Have you guys gotten any feedback from the fans or people have asked you guys more and more, hey, are you going to fill out into that full band again? Or do people really like what you guys are doing and that's what you guys are going to be doing for the time being? I think both.

I think people like what we're doing, but at the same time, they probably want to see us live. I don't see that happening anytime soon. We both got full-time jobs and families, and I don't know, touring just doesn't seem that appealing to me. Playing the same songs over and over again, it's... I mean, I'm kind of... I know that the album is new to a lot of people, but I've heard the songs a million times already, and I'm kind of... My opinion is I'm ready to move on to the next one. I wouldn't want to go and play them night in and night out. And on top of that, being away from

is not that appealing to me either.

I just wanted to point out that the record is actually out.

It's been out four days.

And it's nice that it's featured as one of the new releases on iTunes.

They've got you guys right up front there with some big names like High and Fire.

And I think that speaks a lot to how your name is picking up from this team.

Yeah, thanks.

It's surprising.

Like I said, in the early days, we basically made albums.

We'd never played live.

We'd never promoted ourselves.

and we just uploaded it to Bandcamp. We didn't really expect anything. We only expected our friends and family to hear it, to be honest with you. And then people started buying it. And then Prosthetic got a hold of it. And everything's basically happened from there. But everything that happens is really surprising. How did you guys get hooked up with Prosthetic? EJ, the owner of the label, basically sent us an email a couple years ago just asking if we were on a label.

said that he liked the first album and wanted to re-release it in a physical format. And then came up from there and everything's been good ever since. I was reading online how the album artwork for the new album, it contains references to all of the song titles. Could you maybe expound upon that? Yeah, the original second album was to essentially continue the journey that we kind of laid out with the song titles and the artwork for the first album.

And so we came up with the song titles. And then we knew the artist that we wanted to work with. We basically sent him the titles. And then he came up with a scheme based on the titles that we sent him. And he came up with, you know, what he came up with ended up blowing us away and really taking it a lot further than we had envisioned it. So everything turned out good on that front.

Yeah, the thing I read said that since it's instrumental music, you wanted the, I guess, the image to sort of convey a message that obviously doesn't get, you know, since there's no words, it doesn't literally say anything, but that the album artwork sort of conveys a theme or a message for each of the songs. I thought that was kind of neat.

Yeah, you know, when you make up a song title, sometimes you come up with really bland ones. So, like, you know, certain bands have one-word songs, like,

or whatever.

And that doesn't really work.

You know, if you're interested to put anything in your head,

it doesn't give you anything to go on while you're listening to it.

So I wanted all the titles and put an image in someone's head right away.

Just something extra because we don't have vocals.

Now, with your guys' songs, forgive me,

track two on the new album has like a strong opeth sound to it,

kind of midway towards the end of it, the final third of it.

Do you guys go into these songs just jamming out in the riffs you guys come up with? If it happens to sound like another band, great, but that's not what you guys go into it going after? Yeah, we never really try to sound like it. We have our favorite bands and our influences. And sometimes, you know, in metal, everything's pretty much been done for the most part. No matter what you do, it's going to sound like something, probably. But I think that we tried our best to do

new things within instrumental. If you look at most instrumental bands, most of them are either

Animals as Leaders or Scaleless Summit or bands like that that are extremely technical or they're extremely sludgy like Pelican, stuff like that. We wanted to make an instrumental band more traditional heavy metal riffing and more speed but wasn't entirely based around technicality. That was our goal there.

What sort of bands influenced you, not necessarily to do instrumental music, but just to make music in general? I'd say going back to when I was 14, 15, I'd say biggest influence was probably Tool at that time. And early on when me and Ryan first met, Tool was probably our favorite band. Then you kind of branch out and you get into the Opeths and the Meshuggahs of the world, and then you keep going and everything keeps getting more extreme.

were probably Druk, which is a Ukrainian band. Let's see. There's actually a pretty good amount of influence from them. I don't know if you... Most people probably wouldn't hear it, but we notice it. I'd say The Chasm, which is a Mexican death metal band. There's definitely some of that in there. George, a couple months back, you were listening to a big... Was it Russian? Russian Circles. Yeah, Russian Circles. You were listening to them. You were pretty high on them a couple months back.

Yeah, I like them too. I've seen them live a few times, and they're really good. I really like their Improvis album. Not the new one, but the one before that. One of my favorites. Excellent. Looking through your guys' promo stuff and online and stuff like that, where a lot of bands, they get their pictures out there. There's YouTube video interviews, and you see the members plastered all over the place.

with you guys, maybe correct me if I'm wrong, you don't really see a lot of you guys, like a lot of pictures you have, you guys are kind of black and white, you guys are obscured, more or less, it kind of seems to me you guys are letting the music, that kind of speak for itself, kind of be like, just like going back to Maynard in Tool, he kind of views himself as being that, his voice is just another instrument in the band, and he doesn't want to stand out from anybody else. Am I kind of looking at it too deep here?

No, that's pretty much what it is. We pretty much decided that we're not going to take pictures of ourselves and post them up like you said. The reason being is I don't want anyone to look at the picture of us and decide whether or not to listen to us based on what we look like or decide what kind of band we are based on what we look like. We just want everybody to listen to it and make their assumptions based on the music. Neither of us have long hair.

We don't look at us and say, well, these guys, who are these guys? The thing is, though, that also allows you to go to shows. We were just at Maryland Death Fest, and you being a drummer, we spotted Nick Barker out like that. Picked him out in a second. We were having a conversation with him for five minutes. Since you don't put your stuff out there, you're doing amazing work, but you can kind of blend into the

be anonymous. Right. Yeah. It's pretty cool. I mean, I don't think we're big enough to where that many people would notice us anyway. But at the same time, you know, if the band happens to get, you know, any bigger or whatever, it'd be nice to not really be noticed by anyone. Have you gotten, I'm sure you guys have, have you guys been asked to do any of the festivals or the live shows? Yeah. Yeah. We got some of those requests and the label asks, you know,

They pretty much asked, you know, probably quarterly, you know, just to get a pulse on whether or not we're thinking about it. And I understand where they're coming from, but I guess we just have a different point of view on it than most fans do. But it's also cool that you guys can exist in this wonderful world of metal by just putting yourself up on Bandcamp, your CDs, your vinyl. And you guys don't need to exist more than that.

I find that so interesting that you guys are perfectly okay with being this entity that you guys are and don't need to be more than that. Yeah. Well, we both have full-time jobs, obviously. So it's cool because this album doesn't be successful for us. It can sell two copies and we'd be perfectly fine with that because we don't really need to make money out of it. Everything that happens is just a bonus. And so if you turn your band into a full-time project where you're on the road six, nine months,

out of the year, whatever, you're pretty much relying on success. You have to put out albums that are successful in that cell. And that kind of adds pressure. To me, I think it would make it less fun. And I just want to kind of keep it. I just want to keep it fun and something that we enjoy. Well, I was going to ask, I'm assuming that you probably recorded the first record, maybe in a home type situation, or maybe you didn't. So where did you record both albums, I guess? Did you go into a professional studio? What did you guys do?

Ryan actually runs a recording studio so he's head engineer at a place called Arrowhead Studios he doesn't own the studio he runs it which is nice so he doesn't really have to we don't need really pay for the recording equipment but we get to use it at our leisure so it's it's it's very nice I'm suddenly thinking Temple is like the heavy metal lottery winner it's sort of like record labels come looking for you you got free studio time you guys are gonna rule the world man yeah

Yeah, we're lucky, but at the same time, Ryan's really worked really, really hard to get the opportunity to run the studio. He pretty much lives there. He's there seven days a week, and he works his ass off for that place. He gets to record his own stuff because he does such good work for them and all that. Right on. Awesome. When you're trying to, and you're starting to write these albums and you guys are in the studio, since you don't have that singer to live

to lean on, or even another guitarist, where you have three other members, or two other members to lean on. Is it hard for you guys to come up with new stuff? It sounds like you guys have a great friendship, or things just seem to come natural for you guys. I guess what we hear as a result is the effort of two good friends just laying down some sick tracks. Yeah, I think it's easier with less members, because when we had more, you have to include their material, even if you don't like it.

We would get riffs from... I mean, I don't want to... Well, you know... We don't want to basically send us stuff. And we just... I'll use it. It's just like, the riffs suck, and why would we want to use this? But you have to. You can't just tell the member, hey, everything you sent us is not good. So... It was basically liberating to just... I mean, Ron, I always... His stuff was always the best anyway, and we were the two people in the band who were always the most motivated. So when we finally...

I get you guys probably had talks. Sorry to stop on you there. I get you guys probably had some talks. Maybe as the band went along its way, you're like, maybe we don't need these other guys. Maybe we'd be fine by ourselves. Actually, it didn't happen that way. They pretty much dropped out on their own and they quit. They'd tell us, I can't find the motivation.

to do this. It's taking too long. We didn't play live for a long time. We were just practicing grouts for a year and a half. The reason is because we didn't think that we had an original sound yet to find it. They were trying to rush into playing all these shows and recording an album. That's just quick because they thought it was taking too long. The thing is, it happens. Are they kicking themselves?

now for what could have been? I don't. It's been so many years. They're all living their lives. They got their own thing. I'm sure that they're fine. There's not a lot of metal bands that can make it as a full-time job. I know you just said you guys both have families and full-time jobs, so doing this for a full-time job would never be something you'd think about. But being a skilled drummer, to me, and all

All of us here on the podcast, you are. We look at Chris Adler just picked up that Megadeth gig. If Dave would have come to you and said, hey, I need a drummer. I'm loving Temple. Come aboard. Honestly, if it was Megadeth, probably not. If it was Iron Maiden, maybe. It depends. If it was a band that I really like. I mean, Megadeth's not bad. Not one of my favorites. But if it was one of my favorites,

What if the thing holding up that Tool album from coming out is the drummer? What if Maynard needed you to take over drums for Tool? Boy, I would do that with a career of embarrassment. See guys, the album probably makes it good, but I'm not really that good. Just trust me when I tell you.

I was just going to say, you could think you're not good, but to me, you're awesome. I think most drummers who are 12 fans would never try to replace David Carey. I think he's pretty much seen as God around the world. Yeah, I would fail miserably, believe me. To be completely honest, even when I'm recording full stuff, I don't need to take or anything. I'm doing multiple times here. I'm here. I'm missing hits.

I basically do not practice. I probably shouldn't be saying that.

That's awesome. I love the honesty.

I basically only play with the play accord.

But the thing is, though, this works perfect, though.

You don't have to because you don't have to get ready for that grueling tour.

You don't have to get ready for that gig on Friday nights.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I still, just to make the recording process faster,

I'm going to practice with the next album because I don't piss off Ryan anymore. But yeah. So again, going back to why we first had you on last week, we did our top three instrumental metal songs. Do you have maybe one or two that come to mind as favorites of yours? Instrumental only? Yes. Sure. Yeah. Let's see. Going back to Russian Circles, I really like the song 309.

I'll jot it down. Love that album. Let's see. Instrumental. God, you got me. I went with a... Let's go. I guess I'll say it again. I said, I personally, Revocation on their album, I got to keep drawing a blank on the track there, but I think their second album, they did a fucking killer instrumental song. I look like an idiot now drawing a blank on the name of it. Jay and I both went with Orion for our number one.

Yeah.

We just fell to the world of silent care pressure out there. We couldn't go.

Do you know that?

Were you a Metallica fan?

Am I a big Metallica fan?

Yeah.

Well, you can say, let's say, were you a big fan?

Not really.

Not ever.

Honestly, I love Ride the Lightning.

I love that album start to finish.

I think that's their best album.

I don't get into anything else.

Call of Cthulhu, which is okay.

Like I said, I'm not the biggest fan of them. If I was going to choose Metallica or Merciful Fate, I'd rather listen to Merciful Fate. When we finish with you, we're going to roll into our podcast. We're going to be talking about our top 10 metal albums of the year so far. Do you have a personal maybe two or three albums for your list of metal albums for the year so far? Have you really not had a chance to listen to a lot?

I haven't had a chance to listen to a lot. I'd have to, I'd say it's weird because I always have these answers in my head, but when, if you do an interview, it seems like it's just, it's a blank. But if we're talking about albums, I mean, this, this might not be a metal album, but I really like Steven Wilson, Han Can I Erase. Really big on that. I thought that was really good. I can't, can't really think of too much. I mean, I, I, I'm always behind.

I can always catch up on all previous years to maybe five years later. I might get into the 2015 albums in 2020 sometime. Believe me, I'm still downloading, you know, and buying 80s albums. I'm still way behind. Right now, I'm on a face warning kick. I'm listening to a lot of face warning, which is, I'm just very behind. Any of the early albums, you know, John Arch ones? Yeah, I like those. I like, uh, get all.

I'm not too big on the new one. Other than that, I pretty much like it. You know, Ryan, I used to live in Tucson. I had a friend who was I think his cousin was the bass player for Face Warning, Joe Tobias. I came up to Phoenix to see him one time and we got to hang out on their bus and everything. This would have been the Parallels, I think it was called, Tour. I forget. I saw him up in Phoenix. I wish I could remember the name of the club. I'd tell you. I lived in Tucson for about five years.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't go to Tucson too much. I wouldn't be able to tell you. I think the only concert I think I've ever seen in Tucson was Tool, which was over 10 years ago sometime. I was still in high school, but yeah, I don't go down there too much. Actually, the only reason I go to Tucson anymore is there's – I'm a huge film nerd, and they have like a theater down there that plays old movies and foreign movies and all sorts of weird stuff, and pretty much the only reason I'd go down there.

that checks out in that theater. Is that the loft? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Hey, and I've been calling you Ryan. Sorry about that, Rich. Oh, it's no problem. Rich, I have to ask you this. Also on the podcast, we're all hockey fans. I know your state's team's been in some financial problems. Are you a hockey fan? No. That's why it's not going to last. Shut you down. Well, you know, it's like I'm from,

Chicago. And everybody I know is huge into the Blackhawks. My dad is huge into them. And my brother-in-law and my sister. I don't even know the rules. I mean, sometimes I'm watching it and they stop it and they put the puck in between two guys. I have no clue what's happening. That's called a fight, by the way. The thing is, I'm a big sports guy. I mean, I

I tend to follow everything. I mean, arts and sports and whatever. And it's just the one sport that I never figured out, never got into. It's okay. Neither are people from your state now either. Right. No hockey team for you. Yeah. If the Coyotes are still in Arizona in two years, they'll be lucky. You say you're a big movie guy. Yeah.

out for a second because George and I are big movie guys and Jay is too. Anything you've seen this year you're excited about or anything coming up? Myself, I'm a huge Star Wars nerd and I've gone dark on everything Star Wars coming up. I want to be totally surprised. You know, you can say I'm an idiot for this, but I saw episode one 12 times in the theaters. I put myself through Jar Jar Binks 12 times. That must have been a horrific experience. I can't even imagine watching that.

more than twice.

Hey,

you know why I did it for that final Darth,

Darth Maul fight scene?

Yeah,

that was pretty good.

I,

I,

this year,

what am I excited for this year?

Uh,

shit,

nothing.

Uh,

I don't see it.

I don't,

I don't generally see new movies in theaters.

I have,

I have like the world's biggest collection of blu-rays in my house.

And normally I watch them at home.

And then if I really like a movie,

I'll go see like a revival of an old movie in theaters.

Um,

I'm going to go see Jaws on Sunday. Okay. Wow. Just because I love that movie and I'm taking my grandma to see it and that'll be cool. I'd like to see that. That's a great story, man. You're taking your grandma to see Jaws. I love that. I don't see many movies now either because I'm a new parent and my watching habits have completely changed to the Mickey Mouse Club, Dora the Explorer. Yeah, that's what I'm watching all day long.

I'm not looking forward to. I mean, I'm sure I'm going to have kids soon, but, you know, having to watch all that stuff nonstop.

Yeah, you know, we talk about all this metal and stuff that we like now. The only songs that get stuck in your head are Mickey Mouse clubs and girl toys songs and stuff like that. It totally infects your brain and it sucks. It's great. I also wanted to go here with, you know, you say that, you know,

You guys really didn't care. Not care, but you guys really didn't put a lot of thought into it. You didn't care if people bought it, what success you guys saw. You guys didn't need that. What do you think about the world of vinyl taking off and how you can even get your stuff on vinyl now? I'm sure you guys didn't see that coming. Yeah. I mean, I'm all for it because I hate CDs and the mastering process that goes along with modern times, I guess you could say.

Vinyl's always sound better. Yeah, us here on the show, we're huge vinyl guys. Yeah, if you listen to our new album, if you guys notice, it's much quieter than most modern metal albums. Just in volume in general, we mastered it pretty quiet to try and maintain, even on the CD version, it's pretty quiet. Just to try and maintain the dynamics. So many metal albums you hear these days, they just sound really crappy, I think.

It's just hard to it. It almost hurts your ears. It's so crushed and unpleasant. I don't know how to describe it. To give you some props here, George and I are big, and Jay now, we all have real nice pairs of headphones. When my new headphones showed up the other day, the first thing I listened to was your guy's flack version of your new album, the Moonlit Arp.

The Flack Lossless File sounds amazing. Oh, thanks. Yeah, it truly sounds amazing. We were much, much pickier this time. The first album, like, the production, we cared about it and everything, but we were mostly worried about making the songs decent. And, you know, we had to re-edit those songs and rewrite them so many times that the prime concern was getting the songs to a certain level. And then the production kind of took a backseat to that. This time,

We demoed the songs more thoroughly, and we had the songs mostly good to go. And so we had time to focus on making it sound better. And so we're pretty happy with having that extra time. I agree with Buke. It sounds great, man. And it is really cool. And I'm thinking, hey, if you're a big movie buff, we need to get you guys on a soundtrack, man, or doing a whole soundtrack for some underground movie. Yeah, that would be cool.

I'm sorry. Music is huge, but I'm probably a bigger film buff than I am a music. Okay. Give us your top. Interrupting. I'm sorry to interrupt him. I was going to say, we asked him his top three instrumental songs. Give us your top three silent movies. No, I'm just joking. Let's see. Let's go Sunrise. Wow. By Murnau. I don't know if I can give these in an order, but.

Let's see. Maybe Battleship Potemkin in there. And... Shit. I want to put a Lang in there, but I'm not convinced which one. Maybe Dr. Mabuse. Wow. This guy knows his shit. This guy knows his shit. Wow. Yeah, you were joking, but he answered. Yeah, I was joking, and you fucking rattled him off. That's impressive. I have a lot of silent movies in my collection. Lots. I'm running through... Me and my fiancé right now. Yeah,

I make her sit through all this stuff too. But we're working our way through all the John Ford movies right now. So a lot of westerns and stuff like that. Wow. Really liking it. Favorite movie of all time? Probably not the best movie of all time, but my favorite is probably the original Dawn of the Dead. That's a good one, man. When I was young, that was probably the one that really got me passionate about movies in general.

I've watched that a million times and it's partially too. I grew up in the 70s and it's fun to see them all in the 70s. I own a copy of it myself. I love that movie. That's a great movie. It's one of those movies that's sort of great despite itself. Right. I like movies that have unique characteristics. They have things about them that no other movie has. The 70s vibe of it, it has that pink blood. That's true.

It's just a unique movie. It has characteristics. I know a lot of people, probably most people that watch it today are probably going to think it's crappy and cheesy, but definitely not me. Hey, man, I want to suggest the movie to you, if you don't mind. You may have seen it already, but it's just now out there. It's called We Are Still Here. Some guy just made this movie, and he made it in the 70s vibe, but he made it now. It's sort of got crappy acting in it, like Dawn of the Dead.

It's the best movie, man. It's so good. It's a horror movie. I really highly suggest you check that out. We are still here. We are still here. All right, I'm going to check it out. I just searched it as you typed it, so I'll check it out. Very cool. I think it's right up your alley. All right, cool. Rich, being a fan of movies, have you thought maybe in this, you know how a lot of things are YouTube-driven, have you ever maybe thought of trying your hand at maybe directing

like a little music video for you guys? No. I generally hate music videos. I know there's some that I like. I like the animated ones. Like when a band has a good animator. Like Stephen Wilson, for example, he had a music video for his last album that was really cool. But generally like live action stuff, it tends to all be just kind of bland and I don't know. I don't get much from it. So I personally don't think I'd be able to do a good one.

The one that Steve and Michael did for their album that they did together, that video with the little puppets that they did, the paper puppets, that was a really cool video done. Yeah. Storm Corona. That's exactly what I'm talking about. That kind of, you know, to give the song a little extra, you know, it gives you a story or something to add to the song instead of just showing the band playing at a factory, which doesn't give me anything.

You just probably covered 75% of the videos on YouTube. I could not have summed it up better myself. That was so good. Just a band playing in a factory. That's what we need to start doing. Finding a band in factories and just listing them if bands want to shoot their music videos. Maybe throw in a fog machine and some light stacks. Yeah, what I think is if I ever do the music video, I'd have to.

I'd have to find somebody who could do something cool for it. Other than that, I don't think I'd want to shoot anything with a camera. I can't see anything that would really lend me. I think animation would work perfectly for you guys. That's cool. I will cross their face that that might happen because I think with the instrumental stuff you do, that'd be perfect. You could really get imaginative with that.

So let's hope some animator out there is listening and he's going to get a hold of me. Yeah, that would be cool. I'm definitely interested in seeing if somebody could come up with something cool for one of the songs based on the title or something or whatever. I think that would be pretty cool. Have you guys been approached by anybody in movies or even like video games even to lend you music to doing like soundtrack work? I don't think so. We got a couple emails from people.

It's hard to remember exactly what they were for. Normally, it's just people who want to use the music for their video. They want to use it as background music for whatever. Normally, it's that. Not too many other requests. Like I said, we're pretty small time. We're not OPATH or anything. Maybe one day, we'll get more requests. Rich, I've got one more thing for you. In talking to you, it sounds like you guys are perfectly okay with that.

Oh, yeah. Like I said, any kind of message that we get on Facebook or anything, if you've ever been on any of our social media, we pretty much reply to everything. I mean, every single everything. Because we're very appreciative of anybody that listens to it, period. If you've invested any time into listening to our stuff, we're very appreciative of that.

I've already seen you guys making some mid-year lists too. So you guys could possibly be in there for an end-of-year talk too. Really? I haven't seen it. Where did you see that? I don't want to play our cards here before we do it, but I was on Reddit the other day, and a couple of the people on Reddit were sharing lists from, I think some of the Metal Sucks guys may have posted it. I remember seeing the first album on some lists when it came out. I don't remember where, because it was,

You know what? Well, I'll tell you this. When those lists start coming out and when we see your name, you will definitely hear from us, dude. We'll let you know. And I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up on one of ours. Oh, cool. That's awesome. You know, yeah, I appreciate anything that happens. You know, like I said, we have no expectations, so anything positive is always really awesome. Rich, Ike, I don't have anything more for you. George, do you have anything? I'm good. Jay? Only to say that you sound like a really nice down-to-earth guy, Rich, and it's been a real nice pleasure to talk to you this morning.

Definitely. Oh, thanks. Yeah, it was definitely fun. It was more interesting than I expected, I guess. Hey, Rich, we're just like you. We don't play an instrument. We're not a badass drummer. We're just three guys who fucking... Jay does. Yeah, Jay's in the band. Jay's a singer and a guitarist. But we're just three guys who do... We're like you. We do this podcast. If one person listens, cool. This is just a hobby for us.

We do it for fun and we just like putting something out there and if one person likes it then it makes our day you know And it also makes us sad if one person likes it But rich truly you're you're you were very kind to get back to us when we reached out to you And you did it and you guys did it every single time So again the new album is the moon lit our path It's on band camp now you can get the vinyl you can get the CD

They got a sick logo shirt that you can get. So go out there and support them. Before we go, is there anything you want to pimp or plug? No. The only thing I have for sale is the album. Go and buy it. Go buy it, people. Hey, Rich, I always have a bad fucking habit of this. Was it, you know, since we don't work on the band side of it, do you guys get a notification whenever somebody does get yourself on Bandcamp?

Or do you guys just get like a dump like once a month like hey you guys had five sales because I just picture you guys just like oh yeah let me log on to Bandcamp today and check the sales report. Holy shit! 25, 30, 500 sales. Well on what originally when we had the first album we could check it because we were in control of the Bandcamp. Now the label controls all that so we can't really log in and see the details. But you can still if you go to Bandcamp and you

You can still see how it's selling. It'll tell you how many people or how many collections it's in. So you can kind of have a gauge on if it's doing okay or not, even if you're not able to log in. So it's kind of cool. Awesome. Can I just say my favorite fucking song by you guys, and I'll tell everybody to listen to this song 500 times over again. Offerguy's first album, Rising from the Abyss, is a fucking killer track. Oh, thanks.

That song was written in 2005, believe it or not. That was one of our first two songs. That was like a project that Ryan had to do for his recording school, actually. So it was like, it's a pretty old one. It didn't come out until 2012, but by that point it was seven years old. And you're like, man, I'm bored with this song. Luckily, I'm not playing it live.

Okay, Rich, it's a true honor to speak to you, brother. You have yourself a wonderful day, and we'll keep trying to talk you guys up. All right, thanks a lot, guys. Have a good one. Take care. Bye-bye. All right, that was our interview with Temple. Everybody's laughing because that was pretty instantaneous for us. Yeah, we haven't even talked to the news yet. I'm editing all of this out.

Hells Navigator. Maybe I won't. Maybe I'll leave it in. It was like the visual. Anyway. Actually, you know, it's fun to have guests when we do that because we always wait. And we always don't wait like two seconds. We wait like ten seconds. I want the guests to wonder.

Are we going to leave it blindly? People do that. Whenever we get them on interviews or anything, if it's an interview where we're playing their music, we'll be like, "All right, we're going to play this song by so-and-so." And then we pause, and then we just keep going, because I put all the music and interviews and stuff in post-production. And they're like, "Oh, I thought we were going to listen to the song." It's like, "No, not really. It's all in post." Or even just sit in silence for four minutes. You know what I mean?

We will now observe four minutes of silence.

We are like, to respect the dead.

Okay, and we're back.

Right.

Sorry.

So we skipped over something that I want to mention because we're about to get into a segment here.

Jay and the guys in Catatonic Society were kind enough to record us some jingles that we will be using in the forthcoming episodes for each of the different topics that we do.

And so, without further ado, here is the jingle for news.

The first news item today, I'm sorry to say, is about the passing of Sir Christopher Lee.

He died at 93 years old and he was probably one of the oldest metal people around. Obviously you may know him as Dracula or Saruman from the Lord of the Rings movies or I think he was even in the Man with the Golden Gun, the James Bond movie. He was Count Dooku. And Count Dooku as well. And of course he did some recordings with Rhapsody and some recordings of his own.

that were metal. I'm like, the dude was 93 years old, got into metal at like what? Probably late 80s? You know? That's fucking cool. And by the way, that's not the 1980s. That's his late 80s. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I loved him just from Dracula alone. But the fact that he at the end went metal, I can't even begin to say how cool he was. Do we know, was it a sincere thing or was it just

I mean, was he sincerely into metal? Yeah, he got that there's this connection between heavy metal and classical music. That it's more intricate and intense. And fucking Justin Bieber has nothing to do with classical music. But heavy metal has a different connection. Yeah, and he was into the narrative. He was asked to be on that Sim Force Symphony or whatever it was. And he was really into this sort of that it supported this narrative that they asked him to do. So the records he went on,

They do were like that. Stories. Basically, he told stories over music. Yeah. So, there you go. You will be missed, sir. Hearing him on Rhapsody's Symphony of the Enchanted Lands, part two, fucking just gives the album that much more. Oh, yeah. I mean, he had a voice. Yeah, just the narration that he puts to it, pretty awesome. I know Will is probably, Rhapsody, what the fuck? Never. Yeah, never. Isn't that a song by Queen, right? Yes.

But that would be the Bohemian Rhapsody? Jesus. George has had a fucking case of beer already, it seems. Shut up, man. I don't have a problem. Okay. All right. Next up, there's a second Lamb of God song streaming from their new album. The song's called 512. I unfortunately got about 10 seconds of that in before my internet connection cut out, and I haven't heard it. Has anybody else heard it? Yes. Yes. What do you guys think? Yes.

What's up? Thumbs. I guess a thumbs up. It's a good song. Lamb of God doesn't make bad stuff. It's more of an emotional slower, not slower as far as Lamb of God slower kind of song. It's definitely a song about Randy's time in prison. So I don't know if 512 was his prisoner number, personal prisoner number. Jail cell maybe. Or his jail cell number. I'm not quite sure. But definitely the lyrics are about what happened and his life.

his 39 days or whatever in the Czech prison. Did you hear what he had to say about... I didn't know this, but he was saying that just down the hall from where he was kept was a room where they used to guillotine prisoners during the Nazi times and stuff? Yeah, I think that was in the DVD, The Palace is Burned or something like that. Is that the name of the DVD? No, it wasn't in that though, because I actually watched that, I don't think. It was in the most recent one. Or in his book, maybe.

I was like whoa you know to be stuck in this cell and like be down the hall from that and like be thinking about that yeah it's just mind fuck you you sound like he was in a very notorious prison yes no yeah yeah I think you guys said it you know I could tell by your guys reaction you had to it I'm not it's you know I'm not the biggest lamb of God fan I respect them but I never got into him too much I'm a big lamb of God fan but the thing is it's lamb of God they're an American metal band I don't

I don't expect them to fucking go off of what they've done for four. I mean, it sounded like that. It's good. There's nothing bad about the song. It's not going to be my favorite Lamb of God song ever. I would love hate being in the military. I'm a United States Marine in the reserves. Now I would love hate relationship with Lamb of God. And John and I were talking about this on the way up is that Lamb of God has a tendency to say like, oh, yeah, this song goes out to the troops.

And the song they're playing is like, now you've got something to die for, which is sort of like, hey, you idiot people who sign up for the military and go die for some useless cause kind of thing. So I have a love-hate relationship with Lamp God. I love their music, but sometimes I feel like their support of the, their so-called support of the troops, you know, a lot of people say that, but do they really? Like, yeah, okay, support the troops, but... Kind of a backhanded... Yeah, like a lot of it's kind of backhanded, and that bothers me about...

out Lamb of God a lot.

Yeah.

Being in the military for 20-some years.

Understandable.

Totally understandable.

But yeah, it's not breaking new grounds, but I will admit their last album was a very dynamic album for them.

That one song, King Me, was fucking amazing.

Yes.

Great album.

That was actually one of my favorite songs, and that was the most un-Lamb of God song probably on the album.

Totally.

But it was a great song.

The album started out with Desolation. It was an amazing start to that album. So they've consistently been getting better and better and better, but it's Lamb of God. More and more. It's just more of the same. I won't run out and buy this one. I'll get it eventually. You guys maybe can add a little more on this next one than I can. Like you said, it's good. It's okay. It's fine. I saw this week that Tony Iommi wants to remix the

1995 Black Sabbath Forbidden album John what's your thoughts on this who gives a fuck right yeah there was a period of Sabbath where I kind of just checked out the Tony are years it's nothing against Tony Martin yeah he's a good singer yeah and it's in actually the band there's a lot of good musicians in the band I think is cozy pal still with him at that point I couldn't remember by that album I don't know just that period of revolving I don't remember when he died so probably later than that though so wait so there's a Black Sabbath

after Dio? Well, actually, after Dio, there was Ian Gillen. And then after... Okay. Mess with me. Fuck it, OPEF! All right. But yeah, that's actually the one... Jay, where's your Chardonnay? I didn't see it. Forbidden was Neil Murray and Cozy Pal. Okay, Cozy. And Tony Martin. There's the last album. I'm kind of surprised that that's the one

he wanted to do. Yeah, well, I mean, that's actually the one Tony Martin album that I don't know very well. I don't really know it at all. I mean, Eternal Idol, I know kind of, and Headless Cross, I know kind of. Headless Cross isn't a bad song. Yeah, same here. But again, you know, if I can go into for Black Sabbath, I want me some Ozzy or some Dio or even some Ian Gillen. But it's just he has the bad look of not being the famous singer sung Black Sabbath.

But at that point, after Dio left, and I'm going to show my ignorance here because I'm a huge Black Sabbath fan from Dio on back, but was Tony was at that point the leader of the band? It revolved around Tony Iommi. Was Geezer or Bill Ward even in the band at that point? Geezer stayed the longest. Bill Ward was gone by Born Again. But I'll say this, Tony Iommi wanted to make the records after Ian Gillen, Tony Iommi's solo records.

That's right. I remember that with like 7th Star. But you know, I found 7th Star on vinyl the other day. Yeah. I got it cheap. It's not a bad album. It's not. It's not the albums prior to it. Who sings on that one? I pulled it up right here to talk about it right here. You almost think that if they were his solo albums, you'd like them more because they were solo albums. Right. Yeah. And they were under the moniker of Black Sabbath. Glenn Hughes. Glenn Hughes. So when did you guys, you know, John,

When did you tap out of the Sabbath? Probably around Born Again. Yeah. That was my third Sabbath album. I was very confused by Black Sabbath. My first Black Sabbath album was We Sold Our Soul for Rock and Roll. Okay, Ozzy. My second Black Sabbath album was Mob Rules, so Dio. My third Black Sabbath album was Born Again. I was like, what the fuck? Well, see, I got into Sabbath with Heaven and Hell. I remember buying the album. Twelve years old, like, what the fuck? But we already had liked

The Old Sabbath. So we kind of just transitioned. But at that point it started to kind of get dicey because everything was changing so fast. And I actually did not know that Black Sabbath was Ozzy. So I actually got into Black Sabbath before Ozzy, even though it was like early 80s by this point. So Ozzy was solo by now. But you weren't into Ozzy. I was a solo artist. Right. I did not know Ozzy as a solo artist until after I knew Black Sabbath, which I didn't know was Ozzy. So I was the opposite. I got into Ozzy as a solo artist.

a solo artist and then realized oh this is the guy that was in black sabbath and i

didn't really get into black sabbath i'll never forget i was out on lake nakamixin up in

pennsylvania north of philadelphia and it literally was like this weird day that i'm out on this boat with my

cousin jason sturges and he had this little boom like this is the 80s we're 15 years old or something yes

it's it's on his shoulder yeah we're on this boat yeah like it was it was almost romantic except it

It was two dudes. No ladies? No topless chicks? No. No nothing. It was a small little robot. It was a small dingy. And he's playing this on a boombox and he was playing Black Sabbath. And I was like, and I almost think, I may be making this up, but I almost think it actually started to drizzle. You know how you got that little, that rain drizzle? I was like, this is fucking amazing. And my cousin turned me on to Black Sabbath because I was more into like thrash and harder stuff. I was like, whoa. And then his fucking cousin was like, dude, what are you doing?

My first Ozzy album was Bark at the Moon, which was like 83. And so I had gotten into Sabbath like a year or two before. It was the fucking Columbia Record and Tape fucking club. And I was like, give me some, we sold our soul for rock and roll. Give me some mob rules. I'm sorry to go off here for a second. We got Will's background when he joined us last time. When was your first introduction to

He's talking to John right now, by the way. Yeah. Hi, I'm John. No, actually, my first introduction to music when I was seven years old, my aunt gave me a Rolling Stones album, got Live If You Want It. It's an absolutely shitty recording, but it's an awesome recording. And it just snowballed. Kiss. And then somewhere in grade school, somebody played ACDC, which is a gateway for people that are... Tell us what years this was. Little. Oh, I'll tell you. 47. So I was probably...

You're like 68 years old right now. I look badass, don't I? Yes, I hope I look that good. Yeah, so late 70s. So I got into Sabbath. My first Sabbath album was Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. So I'm part of even a little before that. So when Blizzard of Oz came out, when Heaven and Hell came out, I was like, I couldn't ask for anything fucking better. I got them both. This is fucking great.

Randy Rhoads went and died. Yeah, that's a fucking asshole. That asshole, yeah. It wasn't even his fault, man. But I will say this, and people may think I'm nuts, but I saw them with Brad Gillis before Night Rager became big. Yeah. He just smoked on that tour, and that was the Diary of Madman tour. Yeah. He just smoked. I saw him. He's on that. You being no older than George, did you see any of the classics before they died? Anybody else? Did you see Cliff live? Burton, that is. Yeah, he was still on the

He was.

Yeah, I saw that he was.

I saw him in Monsters of Rock.

No, no, no.

He was.

It was Jason.

It was Jason Neustad in Monsters of Rock.

The first one, right?

Yeah.

No, not the one with Van Halen and Scorpions.

I saw that with Dawkins.

I couldn't be more sure it was Jason Neustad.

Was it really?

Yeah, Cliff died in Europe and then they came back, took a break, and then they got in Monsters of Rock.

That was OEA12, right?

I think was the tour.

Yeah, so I just missed him.

No, my, my, Will wants to give me shit for this.

My evolving into that, I wasn't the biggest thrash guy. I was a prog guy. I was a prog guy. Fucking dream theater, enough for dream theater already. Well, 90s dream theater. How many times in your lifetime have you heard, pull me under? If you're a real dream theater fan, it's like, oh. I didn't even say it right now. I want to preface what we're about to talk about. John, I want to give you the mic. But John grew up in the Bay Area, much like Jay. I don't know if you grew up in the Bay Area.

How are you a thrash guy? Right. So John, go. Because all my music upbringing was late 70s, so I was still a classic rock guy. Still liked it. So you a deep purple guy? Loved all that stuff. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. Stone, Zeppelin, all that. And then all the primary metal. Priest was huge. Maiden, huge. All that stuff. Black Sabbath, Ozzy. And I was a big prog guy, so Marillion was huge for me. I loved him. And Genesis, yes. And so I kind of went a different route. Wait, did you say Genesis? Like Phil Collins' Genesis?

They were prog'd before they were rock. Peter Gabriel. Yeah, Peter Gabriel. So I kind of went a different route. Get it straight. Well, sorry. Seriously? It's a whole world I don't know about. Actually, there are a couple of good Phil Collins Genesis albums before they went pop. But yeah, so I came from a different route. I liked it. I just never got into it as much. Thrash. I'm talking about Thrash. Yeah, I mean, I liked all of it. Just a different route I took to get to it. You know, I want to go back two steps just to mention that Brad Gillis'

is on Speak of the Devil, the Ozzy live record. Yeah. Yeah, and it's a great fucking record. Yeah. I saw Night Ranger at some show. It was like the Scorpions or something like a year or two ago. And Brad Gillis, of course, a member of Night Ranger. And they played, I can't remember what song it was, but they played some Ozzy because he had played on that. And I was like, oh, okay, fair enough. Cool. You know, I wasn't expecting much from Night Ranger, but I got a little Ozzy.

I saw them on their second album tour. One last question before we get to the next news topic. John, why is it that prog metal guys think they're so high and mighty? Why are they such douches? John, why are you such a douche? Because you all suck. I don't get it with deaf metal guys or black metal guys. But prog guys are like, oh, what's the deal with prog? It's because their vagina hurts.

-- Strad

For example, their early stuff is metal-influenced. It's more metal-geared. When Portnoy decided he wanted to just indulge... Is Portnoy your god? Fuck no. Okay. I thought every Prague guy, he's like, you know, a tattoo of his face on your back. Well, Prague is no different. I don't know he has the tattoo on his face. It's on my ass. It's on my ass. Prague's no different. I remember Van Halen when... I actually remember holding Van Halen 1 when it came out. They just... You guys are old. Very old.

All old except for Buke. So tell us, how were the Beatles when they came to the States? I have to ask my mom. No, I just think... Go up on the Bee Gees. Prog fans are... Yeah, but it's pretty good. Prog fans kind of think they're... It depends on the band, too. They're no different in any other group. Like OPAT fans. Oh, yes! That was already drinking. That was good. Whatever.

I love you're the best host ever too. Beard is always like, you know that thing you like? Why do people who like that have such big sticks up their asses? Well, prog fans think that they're high and mighty. See, but not everyone does. You're getting the worst of the worst. They will say the same thing about metal fans. If you compare country fans, you can say the same thing about everybody. If you're an uber fan, you have to stick a bit.

into, because I don't get, hey, let's throw in a weird solo here, and quickly let's follow it up with this drum thing here, but quickly go into this solo again. It's hard to get into. It's a different genre now that it started out to be. Oh, really? I think it's evolved for the worse. Back in 1947. 52, actually. What I want to know is that, do people that like Prague like Opeth, and if they do, do they buy it on vinyl? Oh, that's a double! Dude, that's a double! Does that mean chugged?

I will say this about Opeth. The new fans they have, because they've gone the prog route, have polluted the gene pool. 100%. And I don't have a problem that they've changed. I am the fucking Opeth fan. Okay? I'm out of beer. You're out of beer. You can't say it if you don't have beer. I will agree with you there. And that's okay that they change. I don't mind that. I don't want to hear Blackwater Park every album. I'd be bored. And if you don't like the new stuff, that's cool. I get it.

Did you like the last one? Way more than Heritage. Really? Way more. Heritage to me was too much Scott Walker influenced. Too much time with Steve Wilson. I've never heard that before, but that's very interesting. In my opinion. No, that's a great, great point. I think he was spending... I don't have a problem with the stuff he does with Steve Wilson because I'm a Porcupine Tree fan too. Sure. I like him. This one to me seemed more organic. Mike had a chance to sit down and just do what he wanted to do for once. I felt like Pale Communion wasn't that fluid. It's like it started off good.

It deviates fast. It does. It's just sort of like, yeah, like the middle to the end of the album just kind of like, what happened here? Well, I will say this live, it smokes. Amazing. In a better life. I don't doubt that. I think that's one of those albums you listen to and you're like, I don't know if I'm going to dig this. Then you go see it and you're like, all right, I guess I'm going to like this album. This is kind of cool. I remember when we saw them acoustically and everybody was like, play something heavy. And they're like, we're playing acoustic. And it was a fucking great set. Amazing.

It's not like they didn't announce that. I saw them on the joint tour, which is the one porcupine tree. We were there a night with Opeth. I think I did most of that tour. You two guys need a drink. We're out of beer. I did most of that tour, and I couldn't tell you how many people were whining and crying. Yeah, they're not playing heavy stuff. Black Rose Immortal. Yeah, I'd like to see it too. Did you hear my number one on the instrumental list? Ending credits? I love that fucking song. I kind of did Goblin too,

It's a little bit. I think so. Yeah. You said you weren't going to mention Black Rose Immortal. Can I just mention that? Damn it. Damn it. Okay. We're going to take a quick break. Jay, we're going to take a break. Eat your fucking burrito and eat my burrito, bitch. Whoa. Don't edit that out. Will, what are we drinking now? We are drinking Fairwinds Sessions in the Abyss. And so if you're listening to this podcast, hopefully you are,

a metalhead and you can get the reference that this is a tribute to Slayer Seasons in the Abyss. So myself being a huge Slayer fan and a huge fan of the Seasons in the Abyss album came out in 1990 I believe and then the other brewer, the head brewer Charlie is also a Slayer fan so we decided that we were going to name this beer Sessions in the Abyss because it's a Session IPA so it's an IPA that's a little lower alcohol.

has still pretty much the same amount of hops, flavor, and aroma to it. So we are drinking Sessions in the Abyss. So this is a hashtag metal beer. Cheers. Cheers, my friends. It is really good. I had this at the King Giant listening party that you guys hosted at Fairwinds a little while ago, too. And it was good then as well. I think that's what I had the majority of the time. Yeah. Well, it's quickly.

become the go-to-beer at the brewer because it is full-flavored but four and a half percent alcohol so a session beer means you can drink several of them in a session it's a british invention that's only four and a half percent that's pretty good yeah four and a half percent cut off five i think uh yeah yeah yeah pretty much five yeah continuing with the news that we have barely broken the seal on here i uh i read something the other day about ginger baker who uh of course was the

for cream apparently he's not a big fan of heavy metal he was quoted as saying in terms of heavy metal he said well i would definitely go for a boarding i loathe and detest heavy metal i think it is an abortion but yet takes credit for it yes he you know because cream was like a proto metal band and you know gingerbaker has a reputation as being a bit of a crotchety old douche so you take it with a grain of salt and you know the knee-jerk

is, "Fuck you, Ginger Baker! Happy Metal's awesome!" But at the same time, Ginger Baker was the drummer in Cream, and Cream was fucking badass. So I think it's just an old guy venting. I mean, I think he might have been a little tongue-in-cheek too, because he was kind of like laughing when he said this, apparently. He's been on a roll lately. Yeah. He really has. He's been trashing everybody. Yeah. So, yeah. He's older than dirt. I mean, we are young sprigs compared to Ginger Baker, so...

Yes. Keep talking about metal. Keep it up. Yeah. All right. Next up, we're going to roll through a bunch of new releases here. Pentagram is going to be releasing a new album called Curious Volume on August 28th on Peaceville Records. It's amazing. He's still alive. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if you've seen the documentary Last Days here. Wow. Loved it, though. How does he get that fucking girl? Well, they're not together anymore. I know, but how? Yeah.

It's the same thing with like chicks and inmates in prisons and it's just fucked up look at look at all of our wives and how do we get true look at the five of us hey two hot women and ugly dudes Probably in weeks ever especially after the fucking cancer Yeah, this is the probably the biggest news, but I put it sort of chronologically based on the other releases if you haven't heard yet It's time to rejoice iron maiden

is going to release a new double fucking album. You didn't even know this, Will? No, no, no, I know it. I'm like, sorry. I know we got the news. Oh, yeah. Can you believe, I saw Will fucking reacting, can you believe a double, double Iron Maiden album called The Book of Souls, which will be released on September 4th, and I, for one, will fucking be there. Yes, because the last couple Maiden albums from Brave New World, The Final Frontier,

The Dance of Death.

Whatever.

Uh, Benjamin Bray.

They've been fucking amazing.

They've been a really good album.

Wait, wait, hold on.

Reincarnation.

No, no, no.

Matter of Life and Death.

Matter of Life and Death.

Good pull.

No.

I hated that album.

No, I agree.

The last couple have not been as good as I could be.

Brave New World?

Brave New World's Phenomenal.

Final Frontier?

Final Frontier?

Final Frontier, like, uh, Matter of Life and Death.

Matter of Life and Death.

Yeah.

It was not that good.

It was terrible.

It was terrible.

It was good.

Oh, really?

I fucking love that record.

What?

There's a couple songs that I think are awesome.

Yeah, I thought it was the best since Brave New World.

I hated it.

That burrito's got into your brain, Jay.

What's going on?

Reincarnation's on that album.

Reincarnation's on the Writer of the Thousand Sons I actually liked.

That song I liked.

And Legacy.

There's a song on there called Legacy that's badass.

But guys, a double maiden album.

Oh, no.

There's going to be an 18-minute song penned by Bruce Dickinson.

Please proceed to masturbate now. Up the fucking iris. How fucking amazing is that? Up the fucking iris. Especially after Bruce's cancer scare. How fucking awesome is this, guys? So what's great, so I read a little bit about the new album coming out, and what's great about it is that it seems like it's not just all Steve Harris. Right. So everyone is throwing in some songwriting credits and contributing to this one. That's cool, because I'm a big Adrian Smith fan, so I'm kind of digging that out.

I have a good feeling.

I do.

Oh, I, I, if, if you follow me on Facebook,

I posted.

You need to get John on Facebook.

You on Facebook?

Yeah, he's on Facebook.

I'm on Facebook.

He's on Grindr, too.

Yes, he's on Grindr.

His name is John.

He's on Grindr.

John X.

Yes.

But no, I posted on Facebook.

I reposted, and I'm like, I'm beyond excited for the new one.

It's going to be phenomenal.

I just.

Fuck, it's Maiden, man. It's Maiden. I think it's one of the bands that probably all five of us can just completely work out about. 100%. 100%. I sort of feel the same way with Priest with Halford back. Not that I hated Ripper. I don't mind it. No, Ripper was good. I actually liked a few songs when he was there. The last Priest album made your top ten list last year. I liked it. Yeah, it was great. It was a great show. Those guys, if they're going to do it one more time, I'm in. Yeah. Good or bad, I'm in. Quickly, before we move on to the next one, is this the last Maiden album? No. No. Of course not.

All right. So another album coming out on the same day that unfortunately is probably not going to get the same kind of press because it's coming out on the same day as the Maiden album. Amorphous is going to release a new album called Under the Red Cloud. I'm in. Me too. They've done the same album, what, five in a row now? And they're all good. They're all good. You know, I got into them like Elegy, like late 90s. And I love that album. And then they started,

the next couple albums after that it was like all clean vocals and it was kind of proggy and I

little psychedelic I was on myself here but those sky for sure is my favorite album I wasn't into them for a long time because of the way the direction they were going and then it was actually probably buke that reigned me back in because they had this new singer and he was like I sing I do harsh vocals I'm like oh and he's a good singer too yeah and I didn't know that and so there were a couple albums that came out though where I was just like amorphous whatever and I was like oh I gotta go back and get these cuz this is a fucking badass

Dude Eclipse just kicked my ass. They were amazing live at Death Fest. They're fucking great. They were awesome. Yeah. Eclipse just kicked my ass. Yeah. Great stuff. We'll definitely be getting that. All right. I know this next one, nobody's going to care, but Huntress is releasing their third album called Static on September 25th. I was really into the first Huntress album. Second album, not so much. You're right. Nobody cares. All right. Third album. Who knows what's going to happen. All right. Moving on.

Satan, the band, is going to release a new album called Atom by Atom in October. Satan, of course, was a new wave of British heavy metal band, and they were dormant for quite a long time until a few years ago when they put out a new album. They seem to be still rolling, and that last album, which I cannot name at the moment, was good, though, and so I'm looking forward to hearing that.

Yeah, I saw them live last winter. They were great.

Yes, that's right.

Super cool live show.

Excellent.

I'm going to take this next one, George.

We got a news story that Children of Bodom are going to be releasing.

I worship chaos in October.

And I don't think you care.

I love these guys.

My video game gamer tag is Opeth Bodom.

Everybody take a drink for Opeth Minchin.

Killing like them more.

But I will admit, children of Bogom, I have tapped out ever since Are You Dead Yet? Blood drunk? Okay. But something about it doesn't have that same hate crew death roll. No. After hate crew, the guitar player left. Yeah. So they got a new guitar player. Am I right? So did Alexi, the guitar player, did he leave? No. He's the singer. No, no, no.

No, Alexi is the guitar player slash singer. After Hate Crew Death Roll, the lead guitar player left. Wait, wait, what's the lead guitar player's name? Something Finnish that I can't pronounce. Something Finnish, yeah. But was he the really, really good one? He was, because on Hate Crew Death Roll, the fucking lead guitar work was fucking... He smokes. He smokes. It was amazing. And him and the keyboardist had an amazing gen. Yeah. And so then they got the guy from Stone, which I love Stone. Great fucking...

But yeah, the next few albums, they sort of changed style a bit. It was not what I had hoped. But the last album that I can't freaking remember the name of at the moment, they were starting to get sort of back to that old, older song that I like. Relentless, Reckless, Forever? Yes, that was good. No, no, no, there was one after that. Jay Shonchime. Halo of Blood. Halo of Blood, thank you. Go Jay. The guitar player's name was Pecorino, wasn't it?

What'd you call me? Say, that was awesome. High five for you. Thank you, brother. If you don't know hockey, you don't know who Pecorino is, but all the goalies in hockey are from Finland. I think the guy that replaced him was like Rupa something. Rupees? Everybody from Finland is named Pecorino. Nah, man. They all have way too many U's on their names. In my mind. Hey, Pecorino. I keep hoping children get back to the sound that I like them for. I worship chaos.

I think that'll be good. Hate Crew, Death Row, Follow the Reaper, Hate Breeder,

Something Wild. Those albums in a row were amazing. And they kind of lost me along the way. So I hope they get back to it. All right. So we also heard that Chris Adler would really love to keep playing with Megadeth. You know, I honestly think that that is going to have a lot to do with how the album is received. Because if it fucking tanks, I think Chris Adler's gone. Those guys are in a no-win situation. That's a great point, John.

He got rid of Chris Broderick. Did Chris Broderick leave or did Dave get rid of him? I'm sure it's a me person. Mutual? Probably. We had this conversation. I love Marty Freeman, but technically, I'm not a guitar player. Jay, you can probably speak to this. I thought Chris Broderick was technically the best guitarist they've ever had. Whether the writing was conducive to that or not is different. I think I saw him with Jagd Panzer a gazillion years ago. Wow.

And I always liked Chris Broderick. When he was with Nevermore, he just smoked. And I like Jeff Loomis. He just smoked him off the stage. Really? And I love Loomis. Wow, that's saying a lot. I met Jeff once. Super nice guy when I met him. But it's just Dave. I like Meganette, but it's Dave. He's a psycho. I think they were trying really hard to get the Rust in Peace lineup back together. No, I don't think they tried that hard, George. I totally agree with James. I don't think they tried that hard.

Yeah, Menzo was in, but Marty was in. And so it's just sort of like, all right, well, what can we do instead? And the guy that got to play guitar is good. He's from Angra. Yeah. But it's now just become even more of a revolver. So with Chris Adler saying he would like to play with them, so what does that mean? Well, I think it means he'd like to do more with them than just the current album. I don't think he's planning on touring with them. Right, because that would be... He's my favorite drummer in metal now. Really? Yeah. Okay.

He's amazing. Somewhere, Nick Barker is going, what happened to us, Buke? Probably Bobby Jarzombik. I love him. Everyone would know him from, what, Sebastian Bach, I guess, with Halford. Watchtower? Wasn't he in Watchtower? He was on those Halfords. He was on those Halfords. The Jarzombik's, right? Yes. But he's also with Fate's Warning and Arthegas, and he fucking smokes. He's that good. But he's like his brother. He's just technical.

Wasn't he also in... Nevermind. He's done a boatload of section stuff. Hey, I'm going to play referee here for a minute and move his thumb. Please. Unless anybody else has anything to say about that. Nope. Yeah. I'm dying to hear his fucking list and we've got a shitload of stuff to do. Yeah. Right. Go ahead. Thank you, George. All right. So there's a band project, whatever you want to call it, called Metal Allegiance featuring Alex Skolnick,

Testament, Dave Ellison of Megadeth, and Mike Portnoy of every band you've ever fucking heard of. And they're getting ready to put an album with a slew of guests. And it's just huge. It's almost like that teenage time lords, fucking whatever you want to call it. But I mean, they've got people on there like Phil Anselmo, Chuck Billy, Tim Ripper Owens, Zitro from Exodus, Chris Jericho, Gary Holt, Rex Brown. I mean, fucking everybody.

is on this album and when there's this many people on an album I kind of get worried because it just means that it's probably gonna suck. Is Chris Jericho the wrestler guy? Yeah Fozzy. World Champion. That music is terrible I'm sorry. I know and I used to make fun of him because I was like yeah he's a wrestler doing metal whatever but he does has actually some pretty good. He's big time serious. He's serious about it. I respect him. I don't disagree that he's not serious about it. I've listened to Fozzy and it's terrible.

It is terrible. It is. It's not that good. It's like bad rock. I respect that at least his heart's in the right place. And he does have a little metal knowledge. Yeah, he does. He does. I've heard him on the Eddie Trunk Show before. He does. He does. So one of my favorite bands, actually, their album a couple years ago. I can't put my finger on it. But Swallow the Sun has signed with Sensory Media. New album. And they have an album coming out later this year. I fucking love that finish. That song, No Light, No Hope.

Yeah, those guys are awesome.

The EP Plague of Butterflies.

Yes.

Fucking smokes for 30 minutes.

Yes.

Love them.

Yes.

So if they're silent with Sentry, probably better recording quality.

It's going to come out on vinyl.

More frequency.

More free.

Yes.

Just better all around.

I saw their first US show ever at Jack's.

Ooh.

And they were awesome.

I'd like to see them.

Yeah.

Awesome.

Yeah.

I've been wondering about what's up with them, so now we know.

Okay, so, and also, this was the big internet meme of the week. Slayer released the cover art for Repentless. It has Jesus Christ's head on the cover. It looks like a cross between South of Heaven and, like... It looks like a... and the Marilyn Manson record, Holywood, because they removed his lower jaw. Oh. Yeah, fair enough. You know? Does that ring a bell? And then also, I wanted to say something. Wait, wait, he's on the cross on Hollywood, right?

I think he's doing this like a Jesus Christ pose. He's got his arms up. I don't know if he's actually on a cross. Okay. There you go. Yeah, I want to say this, though. I think the cover's pretty cool, and I also like the lyrics I don't like so much, but the song Repentless is actually pretty cool. It's one of the, basically speaking, songs they've done well. It really reminded me of... I went through and I was trying to find the song that it reminded me of, and I couldn't... I didn't have time to find it, but I was like, it had to be something from, like, God hates us all,

or it's probably not Diablos and Musica, but somewhere around that area. When I heard that song, it really reminded me of something else they'd already done. The tempo of the song, the sound of the song, it's definitely Slayer. The lyrics, however, are weird, dude. Yeah, it's very non-Slayer because it's basically like living life on the road, living the way you want to be. You could tell Carrie King wrote the lyrics,

But you know what? It's the mix. I have the perfect thing. Lyrically, it's the mix between We Are the Road Crew and Motor Breath. Yes. And you know what? I've got to tell you, that doesn't fit with Slayer to me. So it's kind of a punky song now. Right. Well, Slayer does have a lot of... They've always claimed they have a lot of punk influences in their songs. As evidenced by Undisputed Attitude. Right. So I think...

I like it but the lyrics again yeah not talking about Nazis they're not talking about Satan they're not talking about war they're not talking about all the other deep deep so what's the fucking point man you know I think I think I think this the lyrics of that song was an ode to Jeff Hanneman that's the way I look at it so I'm willing to accept it because that's that's that's my impression of what's going on it was like well I I like

I like it. I like it. I like it. I want to kind of stay in the Jeff Hanneman thing because it leads us into our next news item you may have noticed. Yeah, I was going to say that I don't think they would do any sort of ode to Jeff because they seem to be kind of indifferent to him being gone. I would disagree. And Kerry King, he didn't mince any words this last week when he was like, Jeff Hanneman is worm food. And I realize that that's because he doesn't believe there's any afterlife.

He's not trying to insult Jeff Hanneman. He's like, he died. It is what it is. So two things. The last time I saw Slayer play, on my birthday, by the way, a couple years ago, the last couple songs they play are songs written by Jeff, and they put up a huge banner in the background that they changed, which is like the Heineken. The Heineken. The Heineken. The Heineken. The Heineken. The Heineken. The Heineken

Sorry, go ahead, Jay. No, they missed him. Tom misses him. I think Tom's a nice guy. I think Kerry King's just a prick. Yeah, I would agree. Kerry King is just like, whatever, I don't fucking care. But if you read the interview where he says, what we're talking about is in an interview, Kerry King said, oh, Jeff, he's wormford. The context of it was someone asked him the question, is the spirit of Jeff Hanneman in this record?

So Carrie King is answering very matter of fact of, is the spirit here? No, I'm an atheist. There's no such thing as the spirit. Hell's Navigator! Now it's Sessions in the Abyss, how appropriate. Jeff is dead. There's no spirit. We miss Jeff. We love Jeff. And you'll see in a lot of interviews where Carrie King will say, of the person he was closest to in the band,

It was him and Jeff. Although they didn't hang out because Jeff was a recluse. He was a drunk. He was an alcoholic. Yeah, he was a total alcoholic. He died of alcoholism, sororical liver. But so I saw this new, I saw this, that interview and this new song is, hey, this is, this is an ode to Jeff in a way. It was a very fast song that you could probably think that maybe Jeff would have written this song. But the lyrics are completely non-Slayer style lyrics. But I think it's more of, hey, this is not our style.

but we're gonna we're gonna write a song that maybe hey Jeff we miss you this is how you lived your life fuck everything keep drinking yeah we're repentless go fuck yourselves yeah that's exactly what it is no apologies yeah it's not like they don't miss him but he's not there in spirit right he's not looking over them according to them he's worm food yeah yeah which is what what they believe it's what we all are that's right anyway so the band graveyard is also getting

to release a new album called Innocence and Decadence on September 25th. I know Buke likes these guys. I like these guys. I love them. It's like they're not even really metal. They're more of a proto-70s hard rock kind of thing, but they're fucking cool and they're Swedish. They are phenomenal. I used to play them in my last group all the time because it was one of the bands that I loved and that did not piss off all the other people who worked there when I was blasting over the sound system. In fact,

When I was interviewed by Decibel Magazine, I mentioned these guys in the article. Oh, excuse me over here. Decibel Magazine. Oh, excuse me. Oh, excuse me. I'm a 3P in Decibel Magazine. Oh, jeez. At least it's not Revolver, because fuck Revolver. You've been in Decibel 3 three times? I've, either my brewery or me have been in Decibel 3 times. In that section at the front of the magazine. You might want to scoot over, John. The fucking rays coming off the sky are pretty fucking bright.

I got you to say that. Anyway. That's what we think about that. Exactly. Fuck this guy. That's what you think about that. All right. Okay. Three, Pete. Go ahead. Jay, how about Jay? I can't wait to drink the beer he brought, though. Why are we still sitting here? Come on. Hurry up. I thought we were going to drink that first. All right. Go. Go. Go. Go. I'm going to fucking pee like a beast. All right. Hey, Jay, why don't you get this next one? The final remasters of the Zeppelin remaster release are just about to come out July something something. And this would be In Through the Outdoor.

Presence and Coda. And I have to say, I'm actually probably alone on this, but I think Coda is the best of those three. I like Coda a lot. So those are coming. I bought the first four of these, and I probably won't buy any of the other ones. I've got everything through Presence. In Through the Outdoor is probably my favorite of those three, probably because it's the only one I know. There you go. For you vinyl buyers out there, more Zeppelin coming. Oh, vinyl! No, vinyl! Damn it! John's like, I'm safe. Actually, we probably missed it the first time,

because he did say it was a vinyl reassurance. You just said it! You just said it! I'm all out. I'm all out. George is trying. George, hurry up. John brought some fucking beers to us to drink too. I'm going to need a diaper at some point. I got a B. I got you up to size 4. After that, you're on your own. You're a size 4, really? Alright, we got one more news item and we're going to get through that before we take another break. Actually, we have two more news items. Damn it. Guys, what the fuck?

What's up with Morbid Angel? Is anybody in the band anymore? Who's in the band? You're in Morbid Angel now? I might be. We all might be in Morbid Angel. We are Morbid Angel. What the fuck has happened to them this past week? I have to say, with this news story, part of me is like, I don't care. Because they were great in the beginning and their last album. At this point, I love Morbid Angel for what they used to do.

If they're gonna make a new album, anything like the last album, who cares? I stopped caring about Morwood around gateways. I stopped caring after Domination. Me too. That was the last one I liked. You don't care at all. John's like, who's Morwood Angel? He does. I just haven't cared for a long time. It's been a long time. Apparently, Vincent said he was in the band all week long. Yesterday, he was like, I'm out.

And the guitar player, fucking whatever the hell his name is. Something or other. No, no, the... Oh, the other guy that left. Yeah, the other guy that left. Somebody else left. So we don't know who's in Morbid Angel right now. We're pretty sure Trey's in. I'm guessing that Steve Tucker is in based on the... That's what he said. But nobody really knows for sure, so we'll have to get back to you on that. The final news item today, I'm going to keep this brief, Baltimore band

I started a

with new releases.

Alright, cool.

It's almost this time boys!

So, Will, what are some of us drinking now?

Sorry, I'm still trying to clear the beer off my pants.

Yeah, there was a little bit of an accident.

So, right now we are drinking, there's a, Buca's just fucking going to town on whatever

that is.

So, right now we are drinking, there's a brewery down in Asheville, North Carolina called

Dr. Allison Lang and her husband Pete went down to Asheville North Carolina to wicked weed and brought us back the Napoleon complex session IPA and they got a growler of it and dropped it off at my brewery fair winds and I decided to bring it up here and share it with you guys and you decide to share all of it with me in my lap so so we're drinking Napoleon complex by their what Napoleon complex yeah are you looking on untapped you can't you can't put

You put it on there. You didn't fucking drink it. You just killed it. Have a sip. I had a sip. Yeah, you had a sip. Well, you can suck it out of my shorts right now. But anyway, so the great Dr. Lang and her husband Pete brought this back. We're very generous to give me a mini growler of it, and I'm sharing with you guys. So here you go. And Will was literally sucking it off the table. Yes, I was. It's that good. Wicked Weed makes some great beer, and it was

I just spilled all over the table so I decided to adapt to overcome and improvise like a good marine would and oh yeah yes what would you say I just did something nice on a commercial yeah I think what you said was like a are you gonna join the army I don't know I've never been military in my life I'm gonna take my headphones off it shouldn't be right now thank you please sir put me in my place I think I have another Coast Guard I think he called you Coast Coast Guard the Department of Transportation I don't know

I think George said Will's Coast Guard. Oh my god, I'm gonna kill you. Aren't you? Alright, new releases. First up, I think we are obligated to talk about the new release from Temple, The Moon Lit Our Path, or in this case, The Moon Lit Will's Pants.

We all have heard Temple. Everybody, if you've just heard the interview, or you're hearing this now, please go check out Temple. They are fucking badass. An amazing instrumental metal band that hits on so many genres. John, like I heard that track, too, on this new album. Love everything. Straight Opeth. Check them out. Excellent stuff. All right, moving on. The next new release, just this past week, High on Fire released their new album, Luminiferous. Luminiferous.

I also said 9-11 is a conspiracy and we're not gonna talk about that. Matt Pike said that? Yeah. Yeah. Is he friends of Jesse Ventura? Yeah, I tapped out on High on Fire once I heard this news. No, man. No. High on Fire. Jay, come on now. Talk it up. High on Fire. Oh, hey, well, I don't like the conspiracy stuff either. But I haven't actually bought the record yet. I gotta be honest with you. But I'm excited for it. They always do kickass for it. Wait, you haven't got it? You literally don't have it yet? I've been too busy building this.

I didn't want to get it because I thought this was going to be on your list.

That's too easy.

Yeah, for all you know, this could be on your fucking list.

Yeah, Jay, come on.

We'll wait and see if it makes it into the year.

I haven't got it yet.

I know it's out at all.

Is the burrito on your list?

I haven't, but I haven't listened to it.

Wait, I just got to say, we need to get Jay in the studio.

His Skype thing is bullshit.

You know what I told Jay?

I'm like, Jay, drop your fucking job.

Drop your pants.

Drop your job.

Let your fucking mortgage lapse.

Let them take your house.

Ruin your credit.

and move out here you can come live in the studio wait you could do that as a well wait JJ well I'm gonna interrupt here you have no idea we're in the bumfuck middle of nowhere we are right now outside of Frederick mail we are in the middle of nowhere it is literally middle of nowhere so you can come live you can come live where John and I live which is like the actual city part Washington DC

I would say don't do that you're in better place but you need to come out here do j ever you know I'm I'm making you a promise though if you two will come back for end of the year so we can compare our lists I'll be there all right no we'll come we'll be here I'm in you mean I gotta buy another fucking microphone no you got mine yeah two turntables yep yep it's happening but look one two three four no more no room for another fucking don't play

I'll double up with you. Yeah, that's my dream day

Okay, come on we gotta get to the fucking all right

Anyway, so we didn't talk about high on fire

Lumina Ferris I have it, but I haven't listened to it. Okay, I like it a lot too anything else

All right. Nope moving on next new release

Vatnet Viscar and their new their second album I believe called settler it's drop off from there first I you know the nine circles guys were just like really high on it they were really high on it they were high on fire on it and yeah that's okay I like the music the vocals are a little rough on it the vocals kind of suck well so let everyone know it's like a black metal ish sort of yeah yeah I mean like musically good I cannot fault them there but I felt like the

The vocals were a little buried. Like black metal? Yes. So it's black metal album? Yes. So what are you complaining about? It's black metal. There's better. There's better. So it sounded a little tinny. The production sucked. No, the vocals were just kind of harsh. The vocals were buried. And that didn't do it for me. But the album art cover is cool because it's like a female astronaut floating in space.

And you know what the thing is? They got a bunch of shit online for that. Why? People were like, what the fuck's up with that album cover? Are they misogynists? I'm not sure. They got a bunch of shit because... Wait, wait. Why did George and John just get rid of it? He said he had to pee. He was like, cut. Oh. Okay, we will after this. No, but they got a bunch of shit online for that album cover. Maybe because it's not... It's not death metal enough. You know, who knows? I get that.

Yeah, the album cover was actually kind of cool. You are not death metal enough. You do get that. I'm not a more black metal. It's a black metal album. They had to take to Twitter to defend their album cover. Well, at what point do you get tired of the same shit over and over again? Yeah. Incomprehensible scribble that says... Yeah. It's a fucking black and white image of... I love it. Was it maybe a tombstone? Not sure if...

Bunch of Trees or Black Metal Logos? Oh look, Fog in a Mountain. Yeah, exactly. Yes, it's some hill. A fucking band on my top ten list today has a fucking green hill with a fucking logo. That's my number one album is a green hill and fog. I think we're on the same fucking page, Sean. Okay, we're going to take a break so George can go to the top three. Wait, do you really have to pee that bad? I can wait until we're done with the fucking releases. Yeah, wait until we're done with the fucking releases. Can you hold on for a second, Jake?

I am because I think fucking John and I are on the same page I tried to find us I couldn't find this anywhere it's gonna be such a down over not I know next up we have a band that I am particularly fond of right now in fact I feel they should have made my list unfortunately they didn't but this is I am the trireme and their album gnosis never follow the light these guys I don't know if anybody else is here has listened to them at all I did I liked it I put it on

my iTunes, I clicked the wish list to go back and listen to it again. So it was enough for me to say, I'm going to listen to it again, reconsider it, because I only had a very short time to listen to it, but it was good. It's like black death. It's very black metal-ish, but it's kind of death metal-ish in a little way. And the production is really good, and I'm fucking loving it. I like it, George. I think it's good. It's a good record, yeah. It's one of the ones that I put on more than the other ones that came in the box.

Next up is one that I know Buke is a fan of. This is the band Jungle Rot. Their new album, Order Shall Prevail. Just pure American death metal, and I like these guys a lot. They've had a couple exclusive record store days, special vinyls. Jay finally found one for me and sent one to me. I'm happy for it to come. But these guys are not doing anything fucking groundbreaking at all. It's just fucking

American death metal, both style type of stuff. What I like about them is, I like Jungle Rod a lot, and it has an 80s, 90s thrash death feel to it, and that's what it is. They're not trying to be anything they're not. That's what it is. You look at the riffs, the chorus, the bridge, everything. It's almost formulaic, but it's good formulaic.

I think Municipal Waste is to the early 80s thrash. I kind of like Municipal Waste because they do it so well. I agree with you towards death. They do this perfect rehash of the past and there's nothing wrong with it. But they've been around forever. It's not like they're not rehashing the past. They're just continuing doing what they've always done. You know what I hear when I think Jung Ra, I think Sodom, Agent Orange type of sound. Cool. Alright, this next one. Are any of you guys going to pick that?

up on vinyl with what was the play oh I see gotcha and Jay's like would somebody say burritos and I could eat something in Jay's defense I would kill for burrito from California right now I would kill for a bathroom right now Jay where is the best mission burrito in San Francisco the name of the place but I know where it is and it's consistently on the top of this newspaper list and it really hold on I want to hear this from Jay because when I go home I want to go there

I'll have to get back to you. I think it's called La Familia, but I don't remember if that's the one. I know right where it is. I go there a lot. I miss it so much, man. Okay, so we just got a fill-up us here at the table. John, you brought us a beer. You want to tell us what this is? Yeah, all I know is it's from Anchorage Brewing. It's called Deal with the Devil. It's a barley wine. They make awesome beers. I think we did some of theirs for the book, didn't we? Yes. The Love Buzz, I think, was theirs.

Yes, and we did what is... Smells fantastic....like Galaxy or Galaxy something? They make excellent beers. It's fucking $30 a bottle. Oh, Jesus. It's actually $35. Jesus. What a sufficient. If you get a chance to try it... Just get on your knees right now. Get under the table. I don't have to be home right away after the show. This is... We'll be in a costume later. I'm serious. I mean, I just speak for George. You didn't have to fucking bring this. Fuck, man.

Amazing. Yeah, man. Thanks for having me. This is amazing. I want to make sure it's audible to the podcast community. Our clanking glasses. Man, that is thick. Anchorage is an excellent brewery. The mouthfeel. Oh, wow. Isn't that thick? What are you talking about? That is good. So enjoy Anchorage Brewery. I love them. Everything I've had from them. If you're in Alaska, check them out.

I am sipping this shit. Wow. So the label in the bottle is clearly, it looks like the hand of Satan grasping the hand of a person, possibly a polar bear. And the name of the beer is the devil barley wine. Polar bears are protected now. So age in cognac barrels. Yeah. This is good. This is almost as perfect as a brew. This is for us to kind of just glide.

Top Ten List. Holy shit. Are we out of the rest of the beer? No, we have two individual bottles left. We have the two single 12 ounces. So we just get three ounces. Jay, we're almost at the list, but Jay, you seriously missed a fucking deal with the devil. This fucking brew. God, it's good. Amazing. I like how fucking John stays silent the whole time.

He knows what he has in the fucking cooler. He's got one in his back pocket. Jay and Silent John. Yes! I'm glad you like it. Jay's over here. You keep calling Will Jay. No, John brought it and John said, just put this, you know, chill it. He knew what he had. Oh yeah. Yeah, he knew what he had in his back pocket. The amount of good beers we've exchanged. You more than me. This is amazing. Guys, I don't even have to drink.

I just put my nose in the glass and I'm like

I'm I am I am again I'm gonna speak for the metalheads podcast I just want to say Jay thank

you for being a member and joining us the past couple weeks we love you you've helped taking the

podcast to a different level and will and John you guys support on Twitter on Facebook all around we actually listen to it too I know you guys do and even for coming in today

I'm almost done with all the episodes. All of them? Almost. No, you skip all the ones where it's just George by himself. Yeah, when I have a baby and it was George music, fucking skip them. Yeah. You can see now why I do this. Okay. So let's get to some new albums for the week. All right. This next one, this next new release, I'm particularly excited about. I've been listening to it with my new headphones and my headphone amplifier. This is a band called Pale Chalice, and their

new album negate the infinite and miraculous this is a black metal album pretty intense it is pretty fucking bad it's really intense i heard it i've only gone through it once but wow i cannot wait to go back through it again it is pretty damn good it is not on my list today i will tell you that right now but it is probably going to be on the list later in the year when there's more than 10 albums definitely a badass album and probably higher than you think yeah probably yeah oh yeah i tried to listen

to this. I'm telling you, if you guys go into this expecting something easy listening, probably not what you want to start with. No, but it is good black metal. I'm not saying it's not, but it's pretty intense. That's the best reward, though, isn't it? Yeah. And then the next band, unfortunately, I haven't had time to listen to this whole album yet, but they're a power metal band that we were pretty big on. Power metal-ish, anyway, called Unleash the Archers. My friend Josh told me about this band. The singer Brittany,

is a female fronted band. She's an incredible singer. She has huge tits. She's pretty hot. So she's a great singer. Their last album, we loved them. We actually played them on our Power Metal episode. Unfortunately for us, fortunately for them, they have since signed with Napalm Records. So we were supposed to actually get Britney on here for an interview, but we can't play any music from the new album. So I was like bummed. But the little bit that I have heard,

so far has been pretty damn amazing. I don't listen to a lot of power metal these days, but this is one of the bands that I really dig. I definitely think you should check out Unleash the Archers and their new album, Time Stands Still. Now this last new release, it's actually not out for a couple weeks yet. It'll probably be out shortly after this actually posts, but I know about this band because one of the members of the band, their bass player, Neutrino, contacted me and we've been talking

A lot lately through Facebook, and he is a pretty cool guy. Jay is making dick-sucking noises at me and faces at me. My name is Will, by the way. I did it. I buked you. I fucking buked you. That's how much we talk to Jay, because everybody's Jay now. Will. Will is making dick-sucking face gestures at me. Thank you, Will. You're welcome. Damn it. I can't believe I buked you.

I haven't called him Jay. No, you have you have you say Jay all the time when you're talking about him anyway as I've been saying I've been talking to Trino the bass player for the band they're called in Farrah Bru oh and they're a black metal band from Boston and they're getting ready to release their second album called in conjuration I think it is pretty fucking badass I don't did you know you guys listen to this album I could not find it anywhere I listened to it last night it's great yes I listened to it oh yeah we talked about it on the

I listened to it. I need more spins, but I kind of dug it. Towards the end of the album, there was some stuff I liked that they were doing. The first song of the album, I was like, okay, this is pretty traditional black metal. I thought the same thing, yeah. I was like, hmm, okay, well, I mean, I like black metal, so okay, I'll keep listening. But then by the second song, I was like, oh, well, there's some clean vocals in here, and it sort of slows down a little bit, and there's just a lot more musical.

More atmospherics. Atmospheric. I was like, oh, wow. And so by my second spin through the album, I was like, holy shit, this is actually really good. I want to give it another spin, yeah, definitely. And I got to say, I fucking love this album. So Neutrino, dude, I'm not going to give away his real name, but he goes by the name Neutrino. And dude, this album is fucking awesome. I thought the production was good. Yeah, the production was quite good.

And in fact, Neutrino and the singer-slash-guitar player Galen are actually going to be on our next episode as an interview, and we're going to play some songs from their first album. Their second album, In Conjuration is coming out on Binderune Records, so we can't play anything from that because it's a label. But their first album was self-released called Desolate Unknown, which I just picked up on Bandcamp, and you can too. It's fucking awesome as well. So pick up Desolate Unknown, the first album, or the second album.

an album coming out shortly called in conjuration in farah bruo and look for them on our next episode okay so what i want to do here so this is will speaking what i want to do here is i want to read to you guys a passage from this is a passage from the holy bible this is literally a text message stream that is uh interesting to say the least that happened yesterday going into last night late night

Late Night and George, do not dare cut this out. It starts off very logistical and ends up pretty interesting. So I will say who is texting and what they're testing and then the response. Yeah, Jay, get ready. This is theatrical. Okay, so just close your eyes and just listen. And this explains Coors Light. Yes. And so there's a lot of references that we've been tossing

the podcast today that are referencing here. And Jay, we're going to need to get your phone number so we can spam you. So you can be included in this nonsense. Get it from one of the boys. So it starts off by me, Will. George, colon, what is your address? Again, John wants to carpool. Are John and I going to be there for the temple interview? Just want to know so we can do some research. George responds, the temple interview is at

1230. That's why I moved you guys back. Me. Respond. Okay. George responds. Address is 1313 Mockingbird Lane. If you guys showed up at 130-ish, we'd probably be done. I don't expect to last more than an hour. Buke. Yeah, because we're already expecting a long-run episode with the four of us slash five. Don't want to subject you guys to it. Which is horseshit because I would have interviewed these guys. I would have been in. So F you Buke.

That was Jake. That was George. So John responds, Will, carpool works. Let's talk later to work out the details. Buke responds, we're excited, guys. Behind excitement, which I'm assuming meant beyond excitement. But if you want to get behind my excitement, I'm cool with that, too, because that's how it works in Anacostia. John responds, looking forward to it as well. Hopefully I don't say Opeth Drake.

Oh shit! The worst beer to do it to. Too much. Will, I'm sure you'll let me know if I do. George responds, Oh peff! Drink. John responds, Don't worry, I won't scream out Demon of the Fall or Black Rose Immortal like you hear at every single show. Which you do. I do hear that all the time. Every show. Buke responds, Please, do I need to remind everyone that I am at

Opeth fan. Drink. Will's a dick. I'm just reading, man. There's never enough Opeth enough. Drink. John, come on, dude. This is like really good beer. That's why I'm sipping. Yeah, exactly. This is why we should chug a lug because I can't help the fact that what Buke is saying. Yep. George responds. There's an eye roll.

The Eye Roll Emoticon. Puke Responds.

*laughs*

Expect a long episode guys.

When Will first came out in about three to four, we'll have a fucking blast.

George Responds.

*Wil, don't let me forget to give you stickers for the brewery.

Which, don't forget.

Don't forget.

George Responds again.

That might be funny.

I'm not sure what that means.

I respond about two hours later sorry late to the texting string I have a metric ass load of beer I'm bringing to get your asses drunk and make this this podcast legend wait for it dairy this episode with lots of talk of opeth yes and beer deal with it George to tear up the script and smoke it John responds I will have a metric ass load of beer but my beer will be

Devil Approved. Which is what we are drinking right now. I respond, Lucifer loves you. Then he, in all caps, Beak responds, so excited! Obestly! Then, honestly! Then Matt responds again, and you saved me Will from bringing Coors Light. Here we go. Then he goes, I'm up late, still working. George responds, poor Jay, listening from afar and missing all the best fun.

Jay, this is why you need to be included in all these text messages. Buke responds, please, he's in San Fran. He'd be excited if we brought teas and vegan foods. This is what he'd be saying to me anyway. John responds, I'm from San Francisco and I want beer and metal. Will, don't bring teas and vegan foods tomorrow. Buke responds, haha. George responds, no vegan food.

to soak up beer and then drink more beer. I respond, Buke, if I ever see you drinking Coors Light, I will gouge out your eyes and skull fuck you again. George responds, what about Bud Light? Buke responds, George told me he's hitting his keg hard and doesn't know how much he'll have left. Tomorrow, I want to drink a lot and I want to be an hour drinking before you guys get here. You don't see any beer.

I don't know what that means John responds wouldn't wouldn't drinking Coors Light be punishment enough Buk response again Coors Light and Bud Light are said all day drinking beers yes all right your English is terrible George response sort of like sort of like why have one nice steak dinner when you could just snack on potted meat products all day here we go Buk response and yes

I'll have I'll have drank a full meal's worth of calories I didn't understand what that

what Matt yeah cuz he's clearly not counting calories big response not that I'm a fine specimen of physical health George

response now I will drift off to sleep thinking of spam and beer George's box again so like why have a nice steak dinner when you could just snack on pot and meat and products all day I did that already yeah yeah I think you said that twice I did not

I respond why go to Maryland death fest when you could listen to poison warrant all day and suck a dick in an Anacostia glory hole there I said it got him got him John responds kind of specific are you not telling us something George responds will I'm concerned how specific you were laugh out loud why I'm I'm too slow laugh out loud puke responds ha ha ha ha ha puke responds

again. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Buke responds again. That's funny Will. George responds. That's why we didn't see Will at Death Fest, which is true. You did not see me there. Buke responds. So is his shift work at both. At the booth. George responds. Nom nom nom nom. Buke responds. Thumbs up. Cross symbol. I don't know what that is. Thumbs up. Cross symbol. I respond. Hooting my skills to repair for tomorrow.

being the podcast.

Buke responds.

Ha ha.

Buke responds again.

Worst part about tomorrow is having to end this at some point.

George responds.

Will,

what is your ETA?

And that's it.

That's it.

So that is literally up to the minute.

It is up to the minute of how we got here.

You fuck.

That was the greatest texturing I've ever had in my entire life.

I was super excited to share that on the air. All right. Why don't we get into our featured band for this week?

This is a band that one of the guys from the band actually contacted me and said, hey, why don't you play us on the podcast? I gave it a listen and I said, hell yeah, I'll play you on the podcast. This is a band called Duel. They're from Austin, Texas. They are a psychedelic stoner doom band with some serious blues riffing. They say they're influenced by the darker sounds of early 70s proto-metal.

They feature two ex-members of Scorpion Child, which you may have heard of them. They're on Nuclear Blast. And we're going to play you a song from them. This is the song called Fell to the Earth. Check it out.

Gave upon the river, blackness in my hand. What's so clean right away? I looked out across the land. It's my beginning.

This is not the end

Then move the white and the greenness

Down to the other

Then hate me through

Darkness

Drag me away

Time has fell upon you. Hope your strength will last. Cover the earth with their seed and the change happens fast.

The light in the old world, this is something new. Laying a bolt of lightning hit me, drop to the other. Laying a hand came through, darkness dragged me away.

guitar solo

The morning, it never comes.

Till you're our separate ways

In the battle alone.

Did you think you would be here beside me

With that look on your face?

Turn around, standin' in your doorway

Give me a shout, yeah!

All right, that was Duel from Austin, Texas, and their song, Fell to the Earth.

Stick around to the end of the episode and we will play you another song from them. Now, the moment we've all been waiting for. Our top ten albums of the first half of 2015. I don't even know who to start with here.

I guess we should probably...

Let's start with Jay.

Will or John.

No, no.

Let's start with Jay.

I was thinking we should start with our guests.

I'll go first.

I'm the new guy.

Yeah, I think we should start with our guests.

I'll go first.

I'm the new guy.

Go for it.

This is going to be the order.

John, Will, Jay, Buk, George.

Got it.

Okay.

All right.

Let's get into this top ten here.

John, what do you got?

All right.

Thanks to Buk.

Going on and on about these guys.

My number 11, Temple.

The latest release.

I've got to get my glasses on here so I can see this. Oh, fucker. The moon lit our path. Hell yeah. Bad fucking ass, man. I love it. That is great. They got a lot going on. It's nothing more than saying it's just badass. I love it. And my guess is it'll probably be higher at the end of the year. Probably. I threw them in because I just got them yesterday. But I loved it that much. Excellent. All right. Will, what do you got for us? So my, because all the amplifiers go to 11.

My number 11 is Lord Dying Poison Altars. Nice! I'll be seeing them next week or the week after. June 30th I will be seeing them here in Frederick. In Frederick? At the Doom Fest? No, actually it's at the Crowbar show at Cafe 611. I have not been to Cafe 611. Come out here on June 30th with me because he's not going to be here, Mr. Buquet. Buquet no. It's going to be Crowbar, Battlecross, Lord Dying,

and Yesterday's Saints. I may try and make that because... I have my ticket. I will be there. All right. My number 11 is something George and I both agree is almost great, but to me it's good enough to be on my list, and it's a forest of stars. Beware the sword you cannot see. Hell yeah. Good stuff. I won't say too much about it. Just big, epic stuff. A lot of spoken word on it, but some cool singing and stuff too. I'm not going to overdescribe it. Big, epic, sweeping metal. Good stuff. Good stuff. All right, Buke, this is probably the album.

I've spun the most this year and it's probably the least metal.

And it's your number 11?

But it has some metal elements to it at times.

Justin Bieber.

It's an amazing, I'm telling you, it's an amazing album.

Vinyl people, lossless fans, you need to get this.

Royal Thunder, Crooked Doors. It's an amazing album.

Hell yeah.

It's truly one amazing album. Female fronted band. A strong 70's classic rock vibe to it. But almost perfection. Almost perfection when it comes to what an album can put out. So, Royal Thunder. Excellent. Alright, my number 11 is a band called Bellwitch.

Second album called Four Phantoms. This was number 11 for you. This is number 11. Okay, I'm scared for your top 10 list then. I thought this would be top 5 for you, George. This is like funeral. I don't know if this is technically funeral doom, but it is like funeral doom in that it is fucking slow. I mean like at least two of the songs are over 20 minutes long. It is fucking, it is pretty badass. Is it fucking or fucking? What?

or Fockin? I think it's a V. George is so confused right now. I'm so confused. What's that got to do with Mel? Oh, you should say what we're beer drinking right now. Yeah, go ahead, Jay. Go ahead, Will. No, John. Oh, John. Yeah, John brought this. So, so, so, Jay, Jay is not drinking this beer. He's in California. Yep. We would share if we could. It's from Adroit Theory or Adroit. Yeah, it's Adroit. Don't worry, it's Adroit. Adroit, yeah. I'm just having fun.

Black Celebration Imperial Porter.

666.

It's really good.

This smells good, too.

Or maybe I've smoked it.

Give me some of yours fucking brew.

Look how little mine is.

Yeah, exactly.

Give me some of yours.

I think you drank all of yours.

No, I didn't.

I had one sip.

Give me some of yours.

So, yeah.

So, a droid fairy is...

That's smoky.

Local kind of nano...

Yeah, so they're a smaller brewery in...

Not actually far from where we're at in bumfuck nowhere on the border of Virginia, Maryland and West Virginia. Yeah, they're in Percival, Virginia. Super phenomenal human being dudes who brew and run the brewery. They are very much a music influenced brewery and have a lot of... Great space. I've not actually been there. I love the place. Great place. Yeah, I know the dudes have not actually physically been there.

Jay, get your effing butt here to BF Nowhere, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia border, and come out and drink some beer. Yeah, man. I got a kickass beer store near me. I'll look for it. I've been writing them down. No, they're not going to be here. It's not going to happen. Put down your vegan burrito and get your butt out here.

and says, fuck you guys.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm sorry, let me have a plan in the elder and go,

fuck yourself!

I'm sorry, I have a new beer called Parabola from Madison Walker.

Okay, John, number 10.

Now the real list starts, boys.

Irish band, doom metal band, kind of stoner psychedelic,

band called Venus Sleeps.

Oh, I know that one.

That's a strong pick. I don't know if they're breaking any new ground, but it's cool stuff. Yeah, I like that. They cover Sid Barrett, which is kind of nice. Pink Floyd, in case you don't know. Yeah, thank you. And his solo stuff, I think, though, actually. I think it's golden hair, gold hair, whatever it's called. But nice kind of psychedelic stoner stuff. Excellent. That's a great pick. Yeah, I like them. Will? My number 10 is Ingested, the Architect of Extinction.

And Jested is a technical death metal band and they just bring it. All their albums pretty much sound the same. They're all good. It's all technical death metal. What you see is what you get and it's good. That's very true. Nothing wrong with that. Jay, number 10. Probably the less I say about this one the better because I'm positive I'm stealing some thunder here but it's a self-titled album by Nick of the Woods. Oh, really?

Let's just leave it at that super kickass record. That's an awesome record. Last four or five days, that's going on a lot. I keep waiting for my vinyl to show up. That's a great fucking pick. I didn't know we were going to do any metalcore today, but okay. Don't start with it. I'm just wondering. Do you guys actually know that album or are you just like... No. Yeah, we do. Yeah. Okay. Okay, my number 10. After going to Maryland Death Fest, I left Maryland Death Fest on the fucking funeral doom kick. Ooh. I did. Yes! George, I'm telling you, this

This fucking album is amazing and if it made your top 10 it would give me a fucking hard-on shape of despair Wow monotony fields I didn't know you heard no just came out number 10 I what did I say earlier well my number 10 is gonna show you how much I've evolved I gotta tell you it's not on my list but I am very proud of you yeah you know evolve or devolve because you evolve evolve evolve is like you go and

- "Shape of Despair" - "Devolve" - "That's when you go into..." - "Monotony Fields" - "Sue, dude" - "Sue, dude" - "Wow!" - "I would say, years back, I would not have liked this one..." - "Devolve in metal is good." - "Wow!" - "Kind of like..." - "Okay, I would tell you guys this, George knows this more than anybody. A year or two ago..." - "Flur holes in Anacostia?" - "This album would have not been on my fucking list." - "Yeah, no, I'm impressed." - "You're progressing." - "While devolving." - "This is..."

After Seeing Skepticism. Fucking Skepticism was amazing at Death Fest. George, you've heard this album, right? I have. I have, yes. It's pure funeral doom. Oh, it is. It's fucking slow. It's fucking trudgy. They're classic. I was surprised. I haven't listened to it enough to judge it for my list, so I'm impressed. Yeah. They have taken a couple years off from their last stuff, but that's my number 10. All right. I mean, you guys know me, and I love good funeral doom.

So when I went after listening to your podcast and went and checked out skepticism, I'm after listening to the podcast, I'm convinced that there's something visual about their performance. It is. It really is. That makes them better than what they sound like. I would say this listening. When I listen to them, it's more of a it's more of a sitting back, closed eyes, full headphones.

It's a full surrounding environment. Yes, now I get what Jay's... I get what Will is saying. I was very surprised myself at Death Fest. The visual really had a lot to play. That blew you away the whole weekend. I was like, oh my god. The sound combined with the visual, it blew

You know why a lot of people were bored George I were sitting there like what what the fuck is this it was amazing amazing it's great and they've got an album coming out later this year which was apparently recorded live in front of an audience it's not a live album right but it is it was a recording old sitcom yeah like side bill recorded live recorded live yeah yeah so I am very excited to hear that all right

I'm gonna do my number 10 what do you think I think that's amazing I think that's awesome that's all I wanted to hear my number 10 I don't know if anybody knows these guys I don't know if anybody's gonna be surprised number 10 from Baltimore Maryland noise them blossoming decay I've heard them yeah wait wait hold on hold on has that officially been released yet yeah cuz I bought it on bandcamp there you go okay done done it is

Badass. Make the machine gun sounds like you're shooting me down. No, no, I've been waiting for this, but I thought it has not been released yet. It has been released. Okay, good. Getting a lot of press. On A389 Records or whatever it is. Local label, local band. Holy shit. These are like some young kids. Are they like 19 by now, maybe? Something like that, yeah. That's awesome. This is their second album, and it is fucking incredible.

And, you know, this is really outside of my wheelhouse. This is like, I mean, it's like thrash slash grindcore, almost. It's fucking, it's pretty intense. And yet, at the same time, it is completely in my wheelhouse. My wheelhouse. Oh, no, no, George, I think, don't you mean your J-house? Yeah! Yeah! This guy! Got him! Got him!

Yes, exactly. Exactly. Nice. But wow. Got him. You know, it's only like, I don't know, like 25 minutes long or 30 minutes long. It's a short album. Yeah. But hell yeah, it is fucking incredible. So check them out. I wish we could do a top of 50 list because I fucking love this guy. End of the year, man. Okay. John. John. Number nine. Number nine. This is a conversation that you and I had, George.

at Fairwind.

Oh, okay.

When I had mentioned, and I still wanted to say it, I said, yeah, you know, I don't know why people don't like the stuff you like on the show.

And it came off the wrong way.

And I was like, oh, fuck.

And what I meant to say was, it was a very good suggestion.

Yeah.

And I had already known about them, but it was compounding it, alkaloid.

Hell yeah.

I love it.

And I'm going to butcher this name.

I'm in the Buick world when it comes to this.

Yeah, thank you, sir.

The Malkuth Grimoire.

Thank you.

Malkuth Grimoire, yep.

It's all over the map, man. Oh, it is. This is a brilliant album. And I'm going to say it, and we're beyond reproach now, but there's some Blackwater Park going on in that first song. There's a bunch of different stuff on this album. It's an amazing album. It's got a little hop to it, yeah. Oh! Give me a beer, I'm all out! What? No, you gotta sip, you gotta sip. I gotta sip. But no, it's a long album, but it's solid, man. Oh, it is so solid. You can't ask for more. It's very solid.

All right. Will, number nine. Number nine. I think this was a suggestion. Number nine. If I can say, I think this was a suggestion by Will slash Jay. Chapel of Disease, the Mysterious Ways of Repetition. It's all Jay. I'm pretty sure it was either via Twitter or in the podcast. Twitter. He was high on this for Twitter for a while.

So I learned about this from Jay. And it's, it's, what's interesting is this is not 100% my wheelhouse because it's, it's blackened death. Yep. Yeah. And, but I'm digging it with, with some volume four Sabbath volume four smashed in there. There's some jam band, these stuff in it. Yeah. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah. It's, it's like I said, it's typically not my wheelhouse. You'll have a good, so I thank you Jay for this one. So chapel disease,

Ways of repetitive art. Look at that. Jay influencing people on Twitter. Hey, I just bought it yesterday as well on Bandcamp. I haven't had a chance to get through the whole album yet, but I also bought this because of Jay. Right. Cool. Look at me go. It's a good one. We're up to number nine, right? Number nine. Guys, turn up the... Me? I'm sorry, Jay. Go ahead. This is a band that I don't know anybody else has really gotten into as much as I have here on the pod, but it's only an EP, but they released their first record this year.

Aphotic Veil. Very cool record. Really into these guys right now. Yeah, I also picked this up based on your recommendation. I don't include EPs in my list, but I will definitely agree with you on that one. Give me a definition of why. Why not? Because it's not full enough? Because I am a bitch like that. What if it's an EP that has four songs and you

The song is 20 minutes long. Good point. That is a good point. That's a great point, Will. Depends on the EP, basically. Yeah. I haven't included the EP's before. Will and John have both hit you with fucking orbital blast right now. What's your response? My response is, give me another beer. Yeah. My thoughts on the EPs have changed based on the fact that there are EPs out there that are album length. That are longer than Van Halen Slayer early albums? Yes. Yes, exactly.

I have been schooled. Awesome. That's you, Buke. Yep. Number nine, Boys to Men. I was thinking that too. You know what? I guess the funny thing about Boys to Men, that was my first slow dance back in school. Slow dance. My mom at my wedding. On Ben Didney. Oh, baby. A Boys to Men song that was like 100. What's your number nine? Come on, fucking get to it. Turn up the bass for this one, boys. Don't worry about that.

Turn up the bass for this one boys Monolord yes yes yes I love it vanier however you fucking say it the fucking doom sludge that fucking monolord brings right on is fucking amazing I will say this I fucking love monolord yeah one thing I did not like about this new album is that the first album they bury the vocals

The second album they really bury the vocals. It sounds like the vocals, you know what it sounds like? It sounds like they're drowning in water. I agree. I would very much, I would probably include Monolorde in my list if it were not for the fact that they fucking bury the vocals. I don't know why, but you guys have to be honest with you, the music is amazing. It's great. It is good. Those vocals are ISIS-like almost. Yes. In early years.

Yeah. I love it. Amazing. And I played the new album at the new monolore album at the brewery a lot. Yeah. But it's. Nah. I can get past that. Yeah. But the vocals. I'll admit. Yeah. The vocals. It's more bare than necessary. You have to get past it. But I can see what you guys say. Yeah. You don't have to bury them like they have to. You don't. It's like Red Sea from ISIS. Yeah. It's so far behind. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great point. Part of it may be that.

If this was their first album, I would love it.

But this is their third or fourth, right?

Yeah.

The second.

The second.

And the first one, it was, the first one to me was amazing.

The first album to me was way better than the second album.

And maybe just the production of it.

So, it's just, yeah.

Cool.

Rock on, man.

Number nine.

Arcturus Arcturian.

Nice.

All right.

Well, you had to, I didn't think you'd go there, George.

I didn't think you were coming in at number nine.

I was expecting that you wouldn't even think I'd put it in there. Based on Maryland Death Fest. You put it in everywhere. But John and I talked about it upstairs. It was an okay album. It's actually, you know. No, but George, listen, when we saw them live, you weren't so high on them. I wasn't. And I had actually given a brief listen to the album beforehand. But it was like in the car, car stereo speakers.

I gave it a listen with headphones, headphone amplifier, and I was like, okay, I get it. Kevin, that we met at the Death Fest, along with the Nine Circles guys, hello. Definitely on point with this. The new Arcturus album is pretty badass. I'll have to check it out. I was complaining that ICS Vortex was singing out of key. Well, that was because I was listening in the car.

But John's had a bad experience. It's going to take a lot for him to be turned around. But listening to it with headphones on, I get what they were doing. It wasn't technically out of key. I will admit, seeing them live, John, it was really weird. But you even liked it. But I will admit, they were cool. The first couple songs, you were like, what? Yeah, they were really cool. Because when it was a whole day of brutal death in your face.

in your face. They get on stage just like... You need that. You've got to break up the show. Yeah. Cool. I'll check them out. They are definitely my number nine. But my bad experience ended up being an awesome fucking experience. Exactly. So John, you're number eight. My number eight. This is so much fun. Going to Sweden with the Doom Band that took like a thousand fucking years to release some albums. I'm going to go Sorcerer. Ooh.

out of the inverted cross.

Duke is happy.

We're not breaking any new ground, but...

He's clapping like it out.

Bring the fucking Candlemas back.

Let me wipe away the tears.

But I dig it, man.

Opening track just kicks my ass right to the start.

The singer sounds like fucking Dio.

Yeah, well, yeah, like a Candlemas Dio almost.

Yep.

God.

I got it right there, bro.

I wrote them all down.

I took notes.

That's awesome.

see that later.

You know, and it took a,

they're kind of like the modern day pentagram.

It took like a thousand years to release their,

what's it?

That track three or four.

I can't put the fucking finger on it.

Is a summary script.

Just bust my balls.

I love it.

Amazing.

Cool.

Okay.

It's cool.

Uh, we're on number eight.

Yep.

Temple, the moon lit our path.

Yes.

Once again,

there you go.

Yeah, man.

Uh,

love them.

Uh,

I got,

I got the text,

I think from George.

So you,

I think you texted,

us. You mean me. Yeah, so sorry. Because we're on the radio. So George. There's no beer involved in this show. So George texted us and said, hey, check this band out. This is what we're going to interview. Because Buke is stroking his shaft to these guys. And I would too, man. They fucking smoke. Thank you. These guys are phenomenal. So Temple, the moonlit our path, we're probably way higher in my list.

I have to say they would probably be higher on the list if they had vocals.

I agree fully.

I will say for this because you can think of a million bands that you like.

There's a million bands out there but there's something about like hey, I don't like the vocals on that band.

I like the band, I don't like the vocals.

So this band could either went way up or way down on my list based on the vocals.

So if they had vocals, based on the fact that they don't have vocals, the musicianship is absolutely phenomenal. And I think, and this is what I was texting you earlier today, is that these guys, I'm not an OPEF fan. Oh, drink! Drink. Drink? Cheers and drink. I'm done. Quitter. I'm not a quitter. Fuckin'. But if, if...

If these guys having a vocalist I would think they would have something like Michael... Michael Acquafart? Ackle... Ackle... Wow... I was just looking at Jay laughing! I love that little... That fucking smirky head is better with his face. That monitor needs to be 20 times bigger. It needs to be a 60 inch on the fucking J figure on screen?

Ackerfell. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever his name is. Fuck him. I'm not an Oped fan. This isn't even my fault today. We didn't even do this. We'll do it later.

having some sort of opeth. We don't have any beer left. They got a whole black metal thing going to a little bit with their sound and post-metal-ish. They're all over the map. I'm talking from my opinion. I agree with you. Big jerk. No. No. I can just see them without a vocalist that if they had a vocalist it would sound sort of like he does with this

growling but not a growling that's aggressive it's like this a melodic growling if that makes any sense whatsoever that's all I got to say about that all right all right Jay can you do your number eight now didn't learn about these guys till this year they got a few records out I'll keep it brief since we're kind of breaking up a little bit uh Malakesh Anki oh nice call man and Kai that's been on a bunch of lists that's a strong one

Yeah, I love it. Super killer riffs on there. They are to like, I don't know, old Mesopotamia as Nile is to Egypt. You know, they seem to always be in the same kind of realm. But it's cool. I love this record, man. Super killer riffs. It is great. It's a great album. George has been high on the album since it came out. Yep. Yep. Puke, number eight. Number eight. I'm surprised it fell so far on the top ten. Fizzy Gough. The Revenant King. The Revenant King. Amazing. Pure.

I won't say doom but the token power yeah the token doom kind of candle mass type of sound amazing yep I'm not gonna talk much about them but yeah I'm pretty amazing my number eight napalm death apex predator I was wondering with easy meat because remember when we saw them you were yeah the last couple albums you weren't pretty high on actually utilitarian I liked yeah but did it make your top ten

No, no. I didn't have a tough time that year. And we saw them and they blew us away. That was pretty damn good. That was amazing. No, the thing is when George and I saw them live, you would think with how hardcore they are, it's going to be a lot of noise, but it was a pretty dynamic sound. Yeah, it was good. Yeah. Cool. Okay, John, number what? Seven. Number seven, John. This was tough because I had a band in here originally. Okay.

I love this album. I actually am a fan of the new singer. I'm not. I'll tell you why I am. Because I can actually understand him more than the guy from Swallowed Sun. That's the only reason why. Music is still cool. The amorphous folk metal going. I kind of dig it. Let me just pause here just to say that everything that's not on my list is

I don't know. I don't know that and I'll get it. My number seven? XGenesis. Really? Now write my boy Will. Wait, wait, why really? We did this? No, I was like, damn. He did it and now I'm doing it. Yeah, that's cool. We're agreeing, right? That's cool. Jay, virtual high five. There you go. XGenesis. Good call.

which I had to actually look up what the fuck does that fuck take me a faute okay that's a

noverber's doom album - it means the slowly dimming of light yeah oh nice all right so it is a doom metal album is very very good I'm big fan all right you know what I think this is one of those two man bands well one of the guys is like in Australia and the other guy is like in Columbia huh yeah and they record this long yeah Latin like South

America? Yeah. I like them even more now. I've spent... Or Columbia, Georgia or something like that. Columbia, Maryland. C-O-L-O. No, I spent a ridiculous amount of time in Columbia, the country, in South America for my previous job. And they have some good metal there. I saw Sick of It All in Bogota, Columbia. Wow, nice. That's pretty nice.

And he was hopped up on empanadas the whole time.

I love it. I love it when George tries to like, maintain calm, take control, and he's like, it's like a swish of his arm is like, okay, we're done.

Hey, we're moving on. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, we're moving on.

You, you're next. No, you're not. Jay is next.

Yeah, I know. Jay, number seven. I'm going to correct myself. One of them is in Midian, Colombia, and one of them is in Switzerland. Jay, number seven, starting over. Yep, number seven. We're starting to repeat bands now. Mine is number seven, Alkaloid, the Mel Cuth Groom. Nice. Strong album. Super great record. It almost gets to the point where it can be a little too twiddly, but it never quite goes there. It's a good record all the way through. Hell yeah. Okay, me. Number seven. Pure fucking Swedish.

"Where Dead Dreams Dwell." I'm by myself here with this one. It's a lot of crickets chirping, but I'm writing it down. Just pure Swedish death metal. Who is it? This is an amazing album. I didn't even know. Feral. F-E-R-A-L. "Where Dead Dreams Dwell." I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't know. Cool. They're out there. Alright. Cool. That was like the worst. Yeah.

No, I have no idea who you're talking about. Trust me. All right. Well, all I want is acceptance from this fucking guy. He was like, who? What? Dude, I can't help it if I don't know it. All right, that makes even better. Number seven, another repeat here. Melikesh, Enkai. Strong. Who mentioned Melikesh earlier? Jay. I'm surprised this out.

I just haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. From what I've heard, I love. That's the kind of year it is. It's like, wow, this is number seven? Yeah, it's number seven. I've heard the name of this band a million times. I haven't delved into it yet. Strong album. Listen to it a little bit, and it's good. I like it. All right, John, number six. Rehash, Monolord, number six. So we'll just move on. We'll go ahead. We'll move on. Can I get your thoughts on it quickly? Yeah, I get the

It's still cool. It's fucking heavy as fuck. I get it. I'm used to it from other bands I like, so it's cool. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay. Will, number six. Torch, Restarter. Really? I didn't expect that to make a list here. Wait. First, I have to say, I saw Torch. The few concerts I'm actually allowed to go to, I got a hall pass to go to, I saw Torch at the, not the Bellet Lounge, the DC9.

in DC.

Oh, it was.

That's what was the beauty of it.

So the beauty of it is that I saw these guys, such a small venue, and I had

no idea what the bomb string was.

I'm doing air quotes, the bomb string.

If you have not witnessed this, all I'd say is that I saw these guys detuning the D string

on their guitar to the point that it was slapping like nothing in the wind.

Anyway, so Torch, number what? Six? Seven? Six. That's number six. All right, go ahead. Go. Jay. Okay, mine. You have no J's. No, J's. Yeah. Number six, I don't think you're going to hear a heavier record than this this year. The Cult of End Time in Charnel Lights. Oh, yeah. Cool. Got nothing? That's it. Just super kind of like slightly slowed down death in places, but just brutal. Absolutely brutal. I don't know if the audience heard it.

It's been brutal. I keep dropping my fucking phone. Puke, number six. Swedish death metal all the fucking way. Entrails. Obliteration. Really? I expected that to be higher for you. It's my favorite song of the year. Okay. Epitome of death. Remember, you corrected me. Epitome. You corrected me last episode. But yes. Entrails.

Obliteration. Alright. My number six,

I'm surprised nobody's said it yet,

Tribulation,

The Children of the Night.

A fucking amazing album.

Just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Yep.

Cool.

It's on my list.

Amazing album.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

Alright.

You watched the fucking YouTube video

for that first single.

It fucking hoax you.

I honestly can't believe it's at number six,

but there's just some good shit this year.

Literally any other year,

One or two, maybe. Yep. Strong album. All right. We're up to number five. John. Now is the real meat and fucking potatoes. And let's preface, these are in June. It may change. Yep. Of course. Of course. I'm a homer for this band. I've loved everything by them. You're a what? A homer. Yep. Fanboy. He's a fanboy. Fanboy. I love Enslaved. Yep. Ooh. And this was a departure

from their prog years. It's still proggy, but there's some old frost-like type stuff on it. So, enslaved in times. Nice. Show was great when I saw them with Y.O.B. or Y.O.B. Yeah, good album. Good album. Shitty sound, great venue though in terms of size. Good show. You'll never get ripped off on a show by them. They pull out, but that's all. I've seen them a bunch of times. They're great. When we saw them, it was nothing super special. It was good. It was good, yeah.

It was a curious interesting show. It's a different band than it was 20 years ago. Yeah, definitely. Oh yeah. But I kind of dig their prog sound because it's very different. I think with the newer bands coming out, they're going to have to do something extremely different to try and stay relevant. And I think this album they've changed a little bit. More of the Frost, more of the Eld, a little bit. Not much, but a little bit.

I always keep hearing from them people have a problem with his vocals yeah I love yeah I see I'm with DJ I love them I love the the clean with the just screech yeah just scratching I love it yeah yeah all right perfect yeah will number six you have six number five or five sorry Morgoth on God nice I've been a Morgoth fan for a gazillion years and we're

number five.

Okay.

Top five.

Are you okay?

Okay.

These are the big ones.

I thought we skipped number six.

No, we did.

I did six.

I did six.

I didn't do six.

Yeah, you did six too.

Yeah, you did.

It was entrails.

Oh, we somehow skipped you.

Yeah, we skipped you.

Okay, go ahead.

It's fine.

You could do two in a row.

No.

Go ahead.

You could do number six and number five.

I would do a and B yeah we'll do that okay yeah all right can I keep going I love you man so my number five is more goth on god I'm strong they're from Germany maybe I've been a fan of these guys for a gazillion years they've only put out maybe four or five albums but the this last one just harkens back to exactly

what they did 20 years ago. It is awesome. I love it.

- Odeon? - Yep.

- Odeon was not as strong as this one.

Not even remotely close.

Because that was like the intermediate album.

They had, and I'll be the first one to admit that I'm not exactly sure

of all the name, but there was an album that had female and fit the side on it.

And it's embarrassing, I don't know, because that was like my first more goth album

I just loved it but anyway this album is great it is pure European old school death metal and they even though it's been released in 2015 they haven't changed right on cool all right we're gonna do five and six no we gotta do Jay first sorry Jay go ahead Jay number five I'm just waiting till everything's okay the uh I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that's gonna have this uh kind of a Viking type band but I think not so much maybe a little more black metal

with some clean singing in it. A band called E-Reb Altor. They got a record called Natramna. I love this record. So good. There's no bad songs on it. A bunch of parts that make the hair on my arms go up. Killer record. Hell yeah. Great album. Right on. Now, we're thinking that we skipped Buke, so if you're keeping score, we think Buke skipped his number six. He's going to do number six and number five right now. Number six and five. Number six, it was mentioned earlier. I quote,

My best friend here the other day he says on headphones it sounds amazing and it does Bellwitch for phantoms hell yeah on fucking headphones it is an assault of all fucking sounds of metal it doesn't what kind of what what kind of metal is it it's like funeral do you're all doom but I love me you're assaulted by every fucking sound of it yeah I mean like is it like fortress serpentine path kind of funeral doom

It's like two of the songs are over 20 minutes long. Yeah. The whole album. Each song is like 25 minutes long. Yeah, there's only like four or five songs on the album, and it's a long album. So it's like a long EP, what we were discussing earlier? Yes, it is. Number five, if he was still alive today, I think you'd be singing on this album, Sorcerer, In the Shadow of the Inverted Cross. Fuck yeah, man. Fuck yeah.

- Yeah, you're talking about Dio? - Track one, two, three, four, five. - Right in the box. - Yep. Amazing. - Yeah, I love it. - Absolutely amazing. When I heard Sourceware the first time, I tweeted out to everybody, it's like, it's as if Dio has not left us. - Yes. Praise the Dio! - It's amazing. It's amazing work. - Yeah, love it. - Yeah, alright. - Okay. - Number five.

Now is when the real meat and potatoes. Alright, number five. Cult of End Time in Charnel Lights. Nice. Yes, this is a buke, right? Well, this was a George that gave to buke. Yes, but I was pretty high on it, right? Yeah, but I was high on it when I gave to you. I know, I know. Alright, I guess we're moving on then. Number four. Number four, John? I'm almost. I'm about 150% sure none of you guys have this. Not even close.

This is a French jazz fusion metal instrumental band. I like John's List. And you mentioned Joe Saturani in the last show, George. I did. Somebody did. Surfing with Alien, yeah. Yes. This is, he's technically that gifted. It's a band called Morgol. Do you want Morgol to give you head? What is that? Did you fart? Did you try to push it? Oh, here we go.

Am I the Evander Holyfield of podcast partners? We got a death charge. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. All right, my number four band called Morgable. Tea Time for Punks. Yeah, I do not know that. If you are into fusion and jazz, but with metal, instrumental band, badass guitarist. Cool. My number four will is High on Fire, Luminiferous. All right. Right on.

I'm digging it. There's a few songs on there that are sort of like, you know, you could have left that one off. It probably would have been better if you went from a 10 song to an 8 song, but overall, High on Fire, you get what you get. You know what you always get. You love it. It's not going to be anything different than anything they put out for the last 10 years or whatever. And you love it. Yeah, we all love it. And yet it's great.

Yeah, they're great. That's awesome. Cool. Yeah. You're giving me high hopes for that record then. All right. I love them. Jay, have you not heard it yet? That's what you already mentioned. I'm listening to the two songs that we're streaming, but it'll be something I listen to before the weekend closes. Cool. All right. Jay, number four. If this isn't on your list, I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. Tal Cross, self-titled debut album. Yes, sir. You guys know Tal Cross? Yes. Oh, yeah. I am so into this record.

He's probably got the best lyrics of the year, I'll tell you that. And it's just also a great, kind of sometimes sludgy, riffy, mid-speed record. If you haven't heard it, you haven't heard it. The guy's got a real unique voice, and I dig it. I love this record. Amoebix. And I went and checked out Amoebix, and people call him a punk band, but it's just as metal as this is, by the way. It's like Crust. It's, you know, punkish, metal-ish. So, that's by it. There you go. Cool. All right, Buke number four. Now we're off to...

Wait, is it four? Did we mention my number five? Yes. You did, yeah. Number four. I'm surprised no one's here has mentioned this album yet. It was an early album in the year so far. Slyosis. Dorm in the heart. Wait, say that again? Slyosis? Slyosis. Slyosis. My tongue's too big. Oh my god. My tongue's too big. Slyosis. Slyosis.

I-O-CIS. Dude, George, keep that in. That won't be it. It's a great fucking album, guys. It's a clusterfuck. This is the best podcast ever. The look on George's face right now. George, if I'm trying to keep this together, please. Until you find out you're not on the year-end show. Please. Alright, my number four this year. I can't believe this hasn't come up yet, but

Yesterday's Saints Generation of Vipers. Hello. I just haven't given enough time yet. I haven't. I just haven't. You know, this started off like further down on my list. Further down, like further up, like number closer to number one? That was like number seven to begin with. But over the last couple days, I've been given a listen. Can I speak? How much did this motherfucker add to us? Oh, it's all well. It's all well. You're pointing to me.

It's all Jane did this. Do you remember once we met Will? Remember Will was like... In the anacostia gloria. Remember Will came down and said, "Hey, do you know these local bands?" Honestly, that didn't play anything into it. No, but give Will credit. We did not know any of them. No, I will give credit, but the placement on my list is entirely on the band.

is an incredible fucking album it is these guys fucking kill it yeah like I said they started off at number seven on the list over the last couple days I was like okay well how do they compare to bands further up on the list and I was like no no this needs to move up and it moved from seven to six to five to number fucking four no I know I think what beauty is trying to say is I don't think you guys even knew about these guys yeah I mean I did not he yes you do not

I cannot say I

Do not remember because I

But listen to it before I mention I did not I cannot say I don't remember so prior to you mentioning them

I have not heard them ever I

Think probably when you mentioned them. I was like

Because the album is called generation of vipers and there's a band

There was a band called generation of vipers, and I thought it was the same thing

And so I think when you mentioned it, it may have made me go back and go, oh. No, this is not who I thought it was. Did you go, oh? Or did you go, oh? I was like, oh. Oh. Pinky up high. Yes, pinky up here. Like, hello. All right, we're about to get ugly here. This is top three. This is top three. This is when it fucking gets slit and throats. And you know what we do with the top three?

I never thought I'd fucking hear him do this again. I'm going Paradise Lost to play within.

Oh hell yeah! I'll tell you what man, I hear Gothic, Shades of God, Icon, Draconian Times.

And he does a little bit of Bloodbath in there.

I was even saying, what was I, was that about Colby McCombs?

You weren't digging that one release, the first single. You were like, eh, I'm gonna wait though.

I was like, it reminded me of Satyricon.

Yeah, the first single. I was like, oh, wow. But then he comes out and just fucking, just do me, but gothic. Yes, I did not include Paradise Lost in my top ten, mostly because I was like, everybody knows them. It's not because I don't like it. I think it's a great album. Since in Requiem, I've thought they have each album progressed to this point, which is gothic, icon, shades of God. But you have to add,

For a band the past couple years you've been wondering what's their status and they put out this album you're like wow what was that yeah yeah none of us expected that I kind of dug Tragic I don't know Tragic I don't know Tragic I like it none of us expected that to be what it was with him joining Bloodbath you didn't know John I agree with you fully and I'm glad he's brought the semi

growling back. Yes, definitely. He never growled. He was a semi-growler. Yes, semi. And you know what the thing is? I don't think he's gone bloodbath one way or the other. And there's a ton of draconian times in this. There is. There is. This easily could be a number one album so far, or number two. And I'm looking forward to seeing them again. I totally agree. That's a great, great pick. Will, number three. I will preface my number three just to chime in.

on your number three or number four, whatever it was. Paradise Lice. Paradise Lost. I like the album a lot. I don't have a huge history with those guys. I didn't include it because I can't judge it on one record. But I love that record. Which one? The Plague Within Paradise Lost. Oh, yeah. New one. So it's hard for me. So my number three is...

My number one, two, and three could all be interchangeable. Interesting. And this was hard for me, but my number three is Gruesome, Savage Land. Nice. I thought your number three was Paradise Lost. No, no, no. I just wanted to interject my comments on that. Okay, Jay, Gruesome, very good album. Jay, amazing pick. And John and I, as we were driving. We had this conversation on the way up. Yeah, as we were driving 17 hours all the way up here to the border of Maryland. 45 minutes. Yeah.

The border of Maryland, Virginia, and West Virginia. What I love about Gruesome is that... so Gruesome has been controversial. Yeah, they have. Really? Yeah. People are like, "Where are they? Morbid Angel Death?" It's death. 100% death. People are like, "Oh, it's a ripoff." Yeah, it's a ripoff. It's a tribute. Hello? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. To me, it is a tribute. It is a phenomenal tribute.

And if I didn't know, if no one knew and they just said, oh, by the way, we found this album that Chuck Scholdinger just decided to record between leprosy and spiritual healing and just, oh, by the way, this was an album they recorded and you don't know it. And they played that, you'll be like, wow. Wow. It is that close. And it's not like they're trying to hide it. They are just unabashed.

And they nail it so well. And you know what the thing is, Will? They're out there. They're like, we are a death cover band. We're old school stuff. Instead of open casket, they have closed casket. It's that much. But it's that good. That's the point. It is that good. And that could have been higher on my list. It may get higher on my list as the year goes on. Jay, number three.

Number three, John, this one's for you. I've been a fan of these guys for, well, I won't say the record yet, but I skipped their last record because of fatigue, in all honesty, but I've been a fan since Below the Lights, Enslaved In Times. When I put it on, I think I put a Twitter out that said I was almost annoyed by how good it was because it was just, I love it. So that's my number three, Enslaved In Times. Don't need to say too much about it. John hit it pretty good. Excellent choice, man. Right on. It's a great record. Number three.

My number three scruffy looking nerf herder

I think who Han Solo reference that's pretty nice

I'll get you know we want no we don't have a nerve herder right harder on number three number three number three

If my number four is included in this it's fine because we skipped something

out

alkaloid yeah, I think John had that earlier a couple of yeah

Yeah, a couple of us have had you.

I think you had it too, didn't you?

My number three.

I think every, well, anybody that knows me would be a little bit surprised by this one.

Number three, With a Bullet, High on Fire, Luminiferous.

There you go, man.

Good man.

There you go.

This one, you know, I only heard this album like a couple days ago because I didn't get a promo for this,

so I had to go out and get it after it was released this week.

And holy shit, what a fucking incredible album.

I can't believe this isn't on Jay's list. Well, it's only for lack of knowledge, and that's true, because George knows they're one of my favorite bands. Dude, this album, you need to get by, like, right now. It is fucking amazing. Are we still talking about High on Fire? Yeah. Jay, why you don't have this is boggling my mind, and I'm thinking that you're just too focused on burritos at this point. Yeah. It is amazing. This could easily, like, move up, because it is fucking amazing. You know, I'm devoted to those guys.

I do have it I haven't played it so okay John number two being the yeah come on John being the

prog metal douchebag yeah I am I'm waiting for this I'm going for a leprous congregation a lot of people like this album

progressive metal avant-garde yeah either you get it you don't yeah that's a great way to put it John either you like it or you really don't

if you don't I get it but I love these guys they're just yeah all over the map they're each on its old backing

when he does tour so you can't go wrong that's a great way to put it i like it or you really don't i like the last album i haven't heard this one yet smoke live yeah awesome hell yeah all right will number two my number so my number like i said my number one two and three are interchangeable my number two is king giant black ocean waves oh yeah wow all right local band friend of the pod yep yeah so uh so i

I will be full disclosure. We tried to fund them. Yeah, we tried. Full disclosure for me, King Giant, I'm friends with these guys. I made a beer for them. The first metal night that I had at Fairwinds Brewing Company was to have a listening party for their new album, Black Ocean Waves. Made a beer for them called Black Ocean Waves, which is a black pale ale. And it was tasty. I liked it, man. We both enjoyed.

I try and make beer. It doesn't suck. I like your beer. You're alright. I'll give you a little something special. So if you don't know King Giant, they're local to the Northern Virginia area. Their sound is very much like a sludgy southern metal. Danzig. Yeah. But the musicianship on their

is unbelievable. It's weird, not weird for me. Sometimes when I look at my expansive knowledge of metal and everyone's experience of metal, when you can find something that's so good that's right in your backyard, you're sort of like, oh, no, it's unbelievable. But if they came from Chicago, you're like, well, they're just phenomenal. So sometimes you're sort of like, oh my God, they're right in my backyard and I'm friends with them.

They are unbelievable musicians. Their new album is phenomenal. So King Giant, Black Ocean Waves, love it. That's your number two. That is my number two. I'm behind you on that one. Okay. Awesome. Jay. This one showed up on one or two lists already. I just want to explain why I like it so much.

We're a death thrash band, mid-80s death thrash band, with Jeff Picard from Possess singing, smashed together with old Sabbath albums and some other stuff I don't know what, and it's Chapel of Disease. Yep, you're empowering this. Yep. Right on. Here's where you're competitive art. I love this record, man. Which I heard from listening to you on the podcast. So good. I really love it. And that one's going to hang up real high for me all year, for sure. Yep, I just bought this yesterday. I haven't listened to it yet. I downloaded it from Bandcamp, but

I got the vinyl coming. Yeah, I got it because of you. So cool. Duke Duke number two, Jay you and I both when we heard this and I forwarded it to you, you and I jumped on the fucking bandwagon. I'm not going to talk a lot about it. Tau cross and their self-tetted album. Tau cross when I heard this. It's a good one. It's rare for metal to instantly hook me. This album hooked me start to finish. I was on this as soon as I learned that

I was like nope I'm there yeah you know actually I got on bukes twitch feed one night and he was playing it and I was immediately like dude what the hell is this yeah I was streaming some fucking video games and I was playing this and jade misses me he goes what is this yeah hell yeah it was amazing all right my number two it's nothing new we've talked about it already alkaloid the man

I thought they made a number one. It was an amazing album. Nah, this is like what the third person. We've all mentioned it. I think Jay mentioned it too. Everyone except for me. And I expect it's going to be higher at the end of the year. I think we all mentioned it. So what kind of music is it? It's technical death metal. The singer is from a band called Dark Fortress which is sort of like more black metal. Technical black. Yeah, black. You know what?

They actually remind me of musically a little bit is this godless endeavor era nevermore with a little more technical and it's pretty it's produced like that too it's got this really bright crisp production it's probably one of the best produced albums of the year and they venture a little bit to it their sound yeah yeah so yeah couple of the guys are from the band obscura and you know obscura combined with dark fortress is just amazing so you definitely gotta you can hear the whole album online it's

It's amazing. Alright. Here we are. Number one. We are at number one. Number one. Here we go. I don't know if it's going to be what you said. Come on, John. Fucking bring it for me. I don't know. Mumford and Sons. I'm ready for it. Bring it. It's a folk slash progressive metal slash all over the place. I'm ready. They're from Boston. Wild Run. Yes. Wow. Yes. Sleep at the edge of Earth.

There's so much hurrah. Dude, this is a fucking great album, man. Amazing. They're all over the map. I'm not saying anything yet, but amazing. When I heard folk, I was like, I don't know. I'm thinking Bard's song. Here we go. I think everything is folk. Not even close to that. Not even close. Just all the way. I love it. I'm not saying anything yet. It's probably going to stay there for me. Will. Number one. Number one. It's been mentioned before. Really? I love it, man.

Cross. No. Keep going Jay. Come on. Grusome? No. I already said Grusome. That was my number three. No. Well, no. Yesterday Saints. Generation of Vices. There you go. Hell yeah. Go with that. So far, absolutely. And I will say this. It's full disclosure. Absolutely full disclosure. I'm friends with every single one of these dudes in this band. I'm friends with these guys. I love these guys. But I have to say, this album that they came out with.

It is amazing. It is an amazing technical musician album. Everything from the drums, guitars, vocals to the bass. Albert, Matt, Witt, and John just, they nail it. And it's a lot of work. You get through it and it's... Yeah, it's long. It's a long album. What an incredible album. Well, I had the same thing because I purposely did not include...

"Canatonic Society." Me too. Me too. Because Jay's a part of it. Fuck "Canatonic Society." What? No, but seriously, that is a great album. But I thought, well, I was not here when Albert and John were in studio. So full disclosure, I'm currently in the process of making a beer for the band. Nice. Nice. It's going to be a dark black lager. For who? A lager? For "Yesterday Saints." Yes.

I've been friends of these guys for a while. I'm in the process of planning making a beer for these guys for a while. I've already made a beer. It's in the process. So this is all full disclosure. So if anyone wants to call me out and say, well, you're just friends of the band, but this is an absolutely amazing album. It certainly is. Jay hasn't given his number one yet. Go ahead, Jay. Oh, right on. Sorry, Jay. Sorry. No, no, no, no. I think I'm the only one that's obviously going to have this.

One of the best death metal records, honestly, I've ever heard. Definitely the best one this year. It's Sulphur Eon, Gateway to the Antisphere. Right on. Cool. So good. I am just addicted to this record, man. It's good from start to finish. Excellent. And I should also mention, all of their records are based on Lovecraft stories. Lovecraft, yeah. H.P. Lovecraft. Nice. Cthulhu Mythos. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. All right. Yeah, and I've read all of his stuff. I've read all of his things multiple times. Love this record. Cool. Hell yeah. Awesome.

All right, number one buke. Do it, man. This made my whole fucking day. You have no fucking clue. I thought I was gonna come in here today by myself on the outside. My number one wild run. Fuck yeah, man. Sleep at the edge of the earth. Really? Awesome album. Yep. That's my number one album of the year so far. I've heard a little bit of this. I think I need to check it out more based on the... It's death metal.

It's black metal. It's opeth. It's everything. Folky. It's folk metal. Nice acoustic passages. There's the metal band from Boston. He's a fabulous singer, too. Amazing. All right. But, to be honest, it's a pretty amazing album. It's probably going to still be my number one. Yeah. It's the only one I feel confident with going through. Wow. I'm surprised, and I am intrigued. Yeah. Give it a spin, man. Yeah, give it a spin. I will. I heard a little bit, and I was like, hmm.

But you know, I need to hear more, obviously. Track one into two, hook me. It's about a three or four listen, though. Give me some time. All right. Well, my number one. That's what I want to hear. I know what it is. Yeah, Buke knows what it is. Jay probably knows what it is. I want to hear you explain it. Nobody has said it thus far. I'm a little, not too surprised, but number one, it's a black metal album.

Aumbra Omega. Anybody? I've heard this before. We were in Baltimore. Remember we were smoking? How do you do cricket serving? I thought Buick was going to do this at number 10. I really thought he was. It was there. But the thing is, George, it's a little over my head. It's weird, yeah. But I was surprised that you liked it at all. I have. I've liked it a ton.

This is my number one. It's only in place until next month. There is something that I know that has not come out yet. Same for me. That has already usurped it. No, no, no. You can't say that. Just tell us what it is. I can't because it hasn't come out yet. It's not out yet. Fair enough. I have a promo, but it's not out yet. So next month. No, no, no. You can say, hey, this is your number one. I will tell you off, Mike. I get it. I get the promo thing. I get it. But it's a promo. It's not out yet.

He can't tell you. Yep. George can't tell you. It'll change next month. He'll tell you in episode 31. Exactly. Episode 30. But John, can I say from me? What about episode? It says a lot about you and I. Episode D's nuts. When the most obscure album. That was our number one. Love it. And we didn't even have a fucking conversation about it. Haven't talked about it. Amazing. Love it. Amazing album. But that's the whole point of top tens. They're top 20s. Exactly.

I got an album from all you guys today. I have several notes here. And I expect to get your list later on so I can go back and listen. You guys are joining us for the end of year pod. I could tell you what my number one is probably going to be. Is it Wild Run? Maybe. That's a pretty amazing album. It's going to be up there in the top three probably. It's an amazing album. Definitely. Love it. Alright, well, it seems almost anticlimactic.

at this point. But we have a few more things, but we're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back. Yep. All right, that was our top ten albums so far this year. Wow, what a fucking plethora of fucking albums. Let me stop you there. John and I were on the same fucking page, number one. Fuck yeah, man. Yes! As usual, I was on by myself. You're by yourself. No one cares. I'm on by myself. And I thought I was by myself.

I love it brother George is weird I am here and nobody likes me and John we have been on my fucking page for like a week and a half love it yeah wait I just want to Jay are you still eat like what are you doing you're eating the fucking same but not just I'm chewing gum yeah you literally oh my god you literally look like you've been eating the entire episode how many summits do you have Jay Dickerson

And it's now 4-10 here. You have the biggest canine teeth ever. Are you part vampire? I do, yeah. Isn't that weird? Whoa! Yeah, look at that! I'll tell you, I vom to suck your blood. You know those goth vampire people? I've had goth vampire people, those even the goth people, come up to me before and be like, I get it, dude. And I'm like, what? If it's just the way it is. I don't do this on purpose. Yeah, I'm just weird. Yeah, I'm just weird. Alright, well, it's like,

So weird.

This is my John Travolta.

Detour.

Alright.

Moving on.

We're going to do anticlimactically.

Yep.

What we are listening to.

What we are listening to.

We're going to start with John again. We already talked about him, all of us. Temple. I saw Buke saying, I'm interviewing him. I saw you talking about him, George. I'm in. Good stuff.

All right, Will, what are you listening to? I am listening to Serpentine Path. Ooh. And I had not, this is what's surprising. I love Doom. I love Funeral Doom. And I had not heard of these guys until you guys were mentioning it on the podcast and you saw them at Maryland Death Fest. But Serpentine Path, they have two albums out called Emanations and self-titled Serpentine Path. Unbelievably great, slow-ass,

I heard of these guys initially because

there was a band before this called Unearthly Trance

and I really dug their last album

which was just V5

whatever you want to call it and after

that album they broke up

and Serpentine Path

was one of the results of that

breakup and so I

jumped right in on that. Their first album

I dug it and now of course their second album

was out and I dug that too so I am definitely on board with that awesome right on man cool Jay what are you listening to oh a bunch of stuff man I'm listening to almost I'll just pick two though one is I haven't really dove into this band I think you guys must know them probably more than I do which is Crip sermon oh yeah yeah that almost went that almost went on my list but I haven't listened to it enough yet and then secondarily I'm listening to one that I'll talk about in the next segment but I'll mention just a band called war horse put out one of the best doom metal

I've ever heard my life called.

Yep, right on.

As Heaven's Turned Ash.

War Horse?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's our last part in the next segment.

Yep, that's a Southern Lord band.

Yes, it is.

Yeah, they came and went, did one record and disappeared.

That was that where it came out in 2002, so.

All right, Buke, what are you listening to?

What are you listening to?

When I was putting together my top ten list, I was fucking bombarded by albums to check out, by bands.

It was night and day.

Check out this, check out that.

But one band stuck out for me. It was an 80s sound, but it's been with me ever since. Enforcer. Ooh, yeah. From Beyond. Yeah, everybody's in there. This album was on my top ten list. Yeah. For a while. Yeah, I like them. Yeah. It's your 80s speed type of sound. You know, your 80s thrash almost more speed type of sound. You know what you're getting from them. Nothing super special with

You know a bunch of bands that come before them. Hell yeah. It's the same sound, but I'm with you there. But it runs. E-Enforcer from beyond. Cool. Yeah, that's going to be on a lot of, I've seen that on a lot of people's mid-year top ten list, by the way. That's a lot of people are listening to that record. Hell yeah. All right, well, what I'm listening to is one that nobody's going to know, but this is one that was actually recommended to me. Don't be challenging John over here. He's like, George knows so much more than I do. Trust me. Trust me.

earlier, Neutrino from Infera Bruo. He actually turned me on to this band. The band is called Obsidian Tongue, and the album is called A Nest of Ravens in the Throat of Time. What? What turned me on to this was that the... Oh, I'm just saying, wait, what? The singer-guitar player is actually the ex-Woods of Ypres current Thrasenblatt bass player. Wait, so do you like Woods of Ypres and Thrasenblatt?

I am a huge

I know that yeah and he loves them and I love for us and blot as well in fact I'm sorry would you call me for awesome blot and I'm gonna I'm gonna put this out here right now I'm gonna lay this down and walk away Joel from Thorson blot is gonna be on our episode in like late July I've talked to him so he's gonna be on I can't even begin to explain how excited I am about having you all are yeah yeah we can see it as a bullet in your pants

Yes, exactly. So, yeah. Obsidian Tongue, it's like, it's really, it's black metal, but it's like, it's got a little bit of a more contemporary, you know, it's not traditional black metal, but it has a traditional feel, you know, it's like black metal vocals

Album. Mine? You ready for that? Yeah, I'm ready.

Back to 1989. Bring it John. Watchtower: Control and Resistance. I've heard of that before. I never listen to it. The Fall of Reason just kicks my ass every time. George knows this, right? Yes, I do. Great. Tech, Thrash, Prompt.

I fucking love John on the pod. John is so quiet, but he hits you hard. But Watchtower is just balls out. Yeah, yeah, man. Ron John Zarbak on guitar. Because he's, I guess, the new guitars at this point. You know, the brothers are awesome, but it's good stuff. Love it. If you like technical thrash, prog, it's all you have. Okay. Gotta love it. Will? All right, Will. Mine is kind of easy. My classic album, Slayer,

Sessions in the Abyss. Oh really? I've never heard of that. I'll tell you why because we named our Session IPA Sessions in the Abyss so every time we brew it we've been playing this album a lot. And we've been drinking it a lot. Yes. And what's great about it is I saw so they had the Week in the Abyss tour back in 1990 and I was in high school. I was finishing high school so. I was in grad school.

Well, congratulations for being old, fuckfaces. Yeah, well I saw some really cool concerts you didn't see. I'm literally looking to my right and there's John with his gray hair and his glasses pulled halfway down his nose because he can't freaking... Well, I don't want to burn my eyes out looking at you guys. At least he has hair. And he's making fun of me. Yeah. Yeah.

Seriously, 1990, you were in high school? I graduated in '90. I graduated in '91. Really? I was drinking craft beer in 1990. Oh, damn, I'm older than you. Yes, you are older than me. And you look older than me. Shit, oh yeah, that's not what I'm saying. And you are much bigger than me. Whoa. Are you going to keep going? No. Are you proud of this? A little. I fucking love having these guys here. This is a fucking blast. Anyway, so Slayer, Season of the Abyss.

They did a week in the abyss tour which is like an east coast tour

Small venues, so I saw them in the Trocadero in Philadelphia nice, and they literally

Destroyed that the fans destroy the place it was on fucking believable

So I'm a huge flare fan flare flare Bobby Flay

I love Bobby Flay's fucking skirt steaks with some onions and radishes. He's like looking up his skirt steaks. Maybe. Anyway. Slayer. Nope. Actually Jay. This is Jay's. Jay. I'm going to this total. Your classic Jay. Not obscured, totally mainstream. But I put this record on the other day for the first time in probably a couple years and I was like, oh my god, this is a good record. So, total mainstream, Dio, Holy Diver. Oh, yeah.

It's a great album, man. Love it.

Oh, the dive.

Classic, Jared.

You've been down too long in the midnight sea.

First and best video record.

What a run, huh?

From Rainbow to Dale.

And after George's interpretation of that, you know why he doesn't make music anymore.

It was beautiful.

Because he's dead.

Okay.

I have my number, what's his name?

Number classic.

Number classic.

My number classic.

We had a bunch of heavy Swedish death metal. My classic is grave. Into the grave. It started. It was one of the forefronts of the whole Swedish death metal scene. Yeah. Cool. Nothing real special with this. But at that time it was. Yeah, at that time it was. That's awesome. But now you like Swedish death metal. This is one of the forefathers albums of that time. All right. My classic is actually classics. I have a twofer for you.

This is a James Murphy fucking twofer. I like it. If you fucking don't know who James Murphy is, you need to fuck off and go learn who James Murphy is. Bring it. All right. First of the two. Cancer Death Shall Rise 1991 fucking death metal classic. Hello. I like it. James Murphy number two. Disincarnate Dreams of the Carrion Kind 1993. Mic drop walk away. Done. George just dropped the mic.

It's over.

Fucking...

Seriously, you know, James Murphy, you don't...

He's been a producer for like 20 years now.

Yeah.

Because, uh, like Chuck from Death, he...

Fucking weird, you know, I mean, Chuck obviously died from a brain tumor.

James Murphy also had a brain tumor.

How...

Is Murphy still living?

Seriously, he really did?

I had no idea.

Is he still living?

Yeah, James had a brain tumor as well. Chuck died. James lived. But he's had all kinds of problems based on this. He's ongoing issues still, but he's still around. He's producing and engineering albums. You can check him out on Facebook like I do. He's still prolific and fucking badass, but he's more on the other side of the mixing desk now.

But I mean come on he was he was in death he was in cancer he was in disincarnate he was in testament you know the guy is a fucking badass guitar player and so they agree so if you know I picked these two because I was like you know these are sort of not as known as some of his other bands and I think you should really know them so cancer death shall rise disincarnate dreams of the carrying kind fucking get on it they're not the oldest of albums

But they're still... Yeah. Amazing albums. Yep. Yep. All right. Great fucking picks. And penultimately, music acquisitions. I noticed you said music acquisition. I did. Normally we say vinyl acquisitions.

I'll do vinyl. There's zero beer to be drank right now. Okay, go. I'm going. So, John, start you off. Just saw them, what, a week and a half ago? Or two weeks ago? Permanent Waves from Rush just came out again for like the fourth. It's no different than Iron Maiden. It's a Rush album being re-released. But $200,000. Those are nice additions, though, dude. These new ones are really nice. Oh, they're fucking amazing, man. The packaging's nice. I think, Jay, you were talking about 2112 earlier with the hologram. Yeah. Yeah, I just, I just,

It's got permanent waves too. It's just, first of all, it's already a good album if you're from that era and you like Rush, but it's, yeah, balls out. Love it. Hell yeah. Will, your music? So I picked up, so via Twitter, there was a couple people who, there's a guy. You know what you see the thing is, George? Will gets more feedback than we do. I'm Brumetal Will, of course I do. Yeah, exactly. Of course he does. He's Brumetal fucking Will.

He's international. At BrewMetalWill. On Twitter, some of the people I was following suggested Church. Jay, I'm going to throw this to you. Do you know Church? Honestly, no, dude. They're from Sacramento, California. Talk to me. Oh, you know, I do think of, let me look it up real quick. I think a band I know called Blackwood just went up and played with them since you mentioned it, but I don't know their music or anything. They're on Bandcamp. It is a straight,

up doom metal band funeral doom band and their songs are like 20 minutes long I think they have three songs on their new guys are playing with your nipples but anyway so somewhat like there's a bunch of people who mentioned these guys on church I think it was the guy on black metal brews so he is a metal dude who likes beer

It's kind of crazy that I follow him, but he mentioned church, a couple of people mentioned church, and downloaded it off Bandcamp. It's great. Hell yeah. Cool. Cool. All right. Jay, what you got? Well, I'm sticking with a vinyl. I'll do the actual vinyl report. I had a pretty good trip recently. Merciful Fate, The Beginning, which I didn't have. Nice. I picked up that War Horse vinyl reissue. Can't stress enough how you guys need to hear that record if you haven't heard it. Right on. I picked up, I got to find a cheap copy of Behemoth's,

Apostasy mm-hmm got the venom black metal you see cheap like how cheap uh which one was it to the

be him it was a 15 bucks okay that's a good price yeah yeah it was great price i got venom black metal

reissue found a cheap copy of black sabbath live evil original issue and then i got paul bearer's latest on vinyl which i didn't have and finally got engbeid jay malmsteen's rising force the only record i really need to have by him and why do i need to have it duke

I am a Viking.

Yes.

There it is.

Yes.

It's got one of the great vinyl songs of all time.

I am a Viking.

So that's it.

That's all vinyl stuff that kind of came around lately.

Pookie Pookie.

Well, keeping in trend with our, what we're listening to the week.

This is a 1991 release from Grave, Into the Grave.

I don't think I've heard of that until like 10 minutes ago.

I'm fucking with you because you already mentioned it.

Nah, it's cool. It's cool. Carry on.

You're good.

Okay, I was gonna say this.

What the hell?

That's a storm.

Wow.

Hey, Jay, are you there? Can you hear us?

It's Jay.

He's lost power. It's a storm here.

Luckily, this thing is...

I love Jay still...

Jay still puts it like...

It's always the worst.

I have something good to fucking say it could be lightly raining out a recording we are okay yeah

luckily this thing's got battery I have something good to fucking say yes George George you're gonna be spending seven weeks you will it's gonna be ridiculous I think it's gonna take forever to fucking

Hey, dude.

Hey, we're gonna...

We lost power here.

As soon as we get power back,

we're gonna call you back,

and we're gonna finish the pod,

and that's gonna be it.

We're smack dab in the middle of it right now.

Then you lost power in like the whole house.

Yeah, we had a bad thunderstorm here.

Yeah, the power went out completely.

Oh, wow.

We're right in the middle of it.

Oh, okay.

Okay, so as soon as the power comes back,

we'll call you back,

and we're just gonna fucking finish it down.

Oh, awesome.

We're right in the middle of it.

That's great. How can I see that? Who knew that was happening? My wife just said storm is so bad. Tornado warning. Fucking great. Awesome. Yeah. Dude, it's insane storm right now. Alright, Puke, come on. I'm pulling it up. This is gonna be a fucking mess to fucking sink. Good luck. You're gonna have a lot of fun, George. Alright. Puke, what's your vinyl?

I walked into a pretty nice album that apparently pissed you off.

Oh yes, Destruction.

Yep.

Destruction, Eternal Devastation.

I've been looking for that one.

Yep.

I walked in, I found it.

And George, if you want it and you need it, me being one of my best friends, I'll give it to you.

That's cool, man.

I'll find it eventually.

And also with that, they had Black Sabbath, Born Again, and Jay sent me Behemoth the Satanist. All right, my vinyl acquisitions for this week are Secrets of the Sky, Pathway. Oh, nice. Yeah, brand new album from these guys. Also, Solstafir and Atta, the Icelandic band. It's not really metal, but it's pretty damn cool. They're sort of a post-metal kind of thing.

Definitely very cool. And then this is one I know that Will's gonna like. I also picked up Fortress and Unto the Nothing. They're local boys. You should absolutely love them. Yes. Nice. It's very good. Alright, well, it is storming like a motherfucker outside apparently. We've already lost power once. So, as luck would have it, we are about to wrap it up. Before we go, you should check us out on Facebook. Check us out on Twitter. We're on Instagram.

We're on YouTube, we're on Stitcher, and of course you can check us out on MetalheadsPodcast.com. Before we go, we're going to leave you with another song from the band Duel. This is their song, This Old Crow. Thanks for Jay. Thanks for Will. Fucking A. Thanks for Will and John for joining us today, and of course, thanks for having us. Yeah, thanks Will and John, man. It was nice to talk to you. Hey, Jay. It's our pleasure, man. Thank you for having us, man.

If we don't see you back here sooner, we will definitely see you by the end of the year.

Alright, so this is Duel with This Old Crow.

See ya.

The feeling is good, but the fever is high. Screams seem to come from within. This old crow keeps scratching my window. While these days I get in. Open your heart, I'm standing under your line. Everyone knows that the shed is alive.

The day that we fled, the rivers that dry, fields all turn into weeds. Summer high tide, it's picking up speed now, I lost a few friends on the way.

Open your heart, I'm standing under your light Everyone knows the pain that we shed is a lie Open your heart, I'm standing under your light Everyone knows the pain that we shed is a lie

The feeling is good, but the fever is high. Screams seem to come from within.

This old crow keeps scratching my window One of these days I get in Open your heart, I'm standing under your life Everyone knows the plan that we share is a lie Open your heart, I'm standing under your lie